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JB93

Registered User
PhaglofGA is not recognized by the ugle, so do recognized princehalls recognize them?? Explain this to me someone please and sorry if it seems like im asking to much, I just want to gather much information as i can! I hate repeating mistakes
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
As I understand it, all PHA masons in good standing with there respective PHA Grand Lodge are recognized by other PHA Grand Lodges.

Not all PHA members are recognized by Mainstream (aka "State") Grand Lodges, yet.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
http://www.conferenceofgrandmasterspha.org/gjlinks.asp

See there for regular status and mutual recognition within the PHA branch of our family of Brothers. All over the US though some jurisdictions cover more than one state. Also jurisdictions in Canada and other countries.

http://bessel.org/masrec/phamap.htm

See there for recognition between the two branches of our family of Brothers in the US. It should be possible to draw a similar map for Canada.

http://www.ugle.org.uk/about/foreign-grand-lodges

See the North America tab for the UGLE view of us. There usual policy is to recognize once the two jurisdictions in a state have mutual recognition and the PHA jurisdiction asks. It is not clear why PHA Oklahoma has not yet asked - They aggressively charter military lodges overseas so maybe it's about the paperwork on that topic.

http://www.mwphglga.org/

PHA GA seems down today. They are your regular PHA jurisdiction.

Glad to see you decided to transition from step-Brother to full Brother.
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
Question : When asked if you are a freemason, do you brothers feel the need to specific if you are a PHA or GL mason. And if so, do you explain the difference ?

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Bloke

Premium Member
Question : When asked if you are a freemason, do you brothers feel the need to specific if you are a PHA or GL mason. And if so, do you explain the difference ?

The only thing I might refer to is that my GL is recognized by UGLE as a point of reference to my GL's "regularity". For me, I'm only primarily interested in Regularity, the tradition, whether PH or otherwise is only relevant as a point of discussion and learning :)
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
When asked if you are a freemason, do you brothers feel the need to specific if you are a PHA or GL mason.

I do not. That's a detail to be discussed when showing each other dues cards just before entering a tiled meeting. Other than that there is rarely call for making the distinction.

And if so, do you explain the difference ?

Before the days of the Daytona 500 and the Indianapolis 500 the word race in the US meant something strange. It's a relic of those days. Now we have a pair of traditions older than the country and that's as cool as history gets.
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
When approached by a man that wants to be a mason in a state where both Grand Lodges not in Amity, how do you refer him ?

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dfreybur

Premium Member
When approached by a man that wants to be a mason in a state where both Grand Lodges not in Amity, how do you refer him ?

All 3 of my jurisdictions have local recognition so he's asking about a location where I'm not a member. So far the only places I've encountered queries of that sort have been here on this board and back in the old UseNet days on news:alt.freemasonry

I post links to the lodge locator function of both of his local regular GLs and suggest he go to more than one nearby lodge and get to know the Brothers then petition one. Recently for provinces in Canada as well. It's only in the last year that I noticed that PHA recognition is starting to happen there.
 

acjohnson53

Registered User
If approached and asked if I am a freemason, I just say I am and keep it moving, if approached by a Master Mason we just carry on a general conversation..and to be noticed to asked that question that mean i'm lit up with my cap or ring...
 

lilhut3579

Registered User
That's pretty much it, what JD said. The emblems are knowledge and knowledge is light. So wearing an emblem = wearing light or being lit up. Also, what bloke said is true as well. Some PHA brothers refer to each other as square.
 

acjohnson53

Registered User
Being a Prince Hall Mason don't have anything to do with it. I just have a little swag with it. Not to say I spread the word like that cause I'm always got my nose in them books to keep myself stead fast.
 
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