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Companion Joe

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I am admittedly not a philosophy guy by nature or profession. I am an English and history teacher, so I am like Paul Harvey; I want the rest of the story. If you only have the first three degrees or part of the YR degrees (we are not talking about the Commandery orders), then you don't have the whole story. I'm not going to read a few chapters of a book, spend a period of time reflecting on them, then go back and read some more. I'd rather read the entire book and spend time pondering the entire story and how it all goes together.
 

chrmc

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I am admittedly not a philosophy guy by nature or profession. I am an English and history teacher, so I am like Paul Harvey; I want the rest of the story. If you only have the first three degrees or part of the YR degrees (we are not talking about the Commandery orders), then you don't have the whole story. I'm not going to read a few chapters of a book, spend a period of time reflecting on them, then go back and read some more. I'd rather read the entire book and spend time pondering the entire story and how it all goes together.

And I do think that this is a valid feeling as well, though I don't share that view. However by that notion we should also be given all three blue lodge degrees in the same day that we get the Chapter degrees. Since they are all part of the same story.

But why keep the Commandry out of this? What constitutes part of the story, and which degrees belong to the sequel?
 

Companion Joe

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And I do think that this is a valid feeling as well, though I don't share that view. However by that notion we should also be given all three blue lodge degrees in the same day that we get the Chapter degrees. Since they are all part of the same story.

But why keep the Commandry out of this? What constitutes part of the story, and which degrees belong to the sequel?

The Commandery orders are unto themselves and not a part of the story told in the third degree.

The Blue Lodge degrees are set up to be conferred individually and lend themselves to learning the lectures, etc.
 

Ripcord22A

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[QUOTE="Companion Joe, post: 153483, member: 14089"
The Blue Lodge degrees are set up to be conferred individually and lend themselves to learning the lectures, etc.[/QUOTE]

The first 3 are stand alone stories. They dont really intertwine.
 

Companion Joe

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I don't know what degrees you have taken, but in my jurisdiction, all the degrees of the Blue Lodge, Chapter, and Council are all chapters of the same book. You don't get them in order (it's sort of like an early Quentin Tarantino movie), but they are certainly interwoven.
 

Ripcord22A

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I have not taken the YR degrees but from what i understand they pick up right where the MM degree leaves off. The ea and fc dont really deal with that story. They speak of the temple and wages and travel but Hiram isnt there. Thats what i meant
 

Warrior1256

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No, they don't "pick up where the MM leaves off." It's much more complicated than that. If you haven't taken the degrees, I encourage you to seek more light.
True, when you take the degrees everything seems haphazard but everything comes together in the end.
 

dfreybur

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It speaks to the difference in how we see degrees and their purpose. To me a degree is supposed to impart a lesson and help a man grow before he can take the next step, which would be the following degree. By taking 4 at a time there is simply not opportunity to have that necessary reflection and growth.

Two perspectives on time and the material to learn.

The material is the script of the degree and any work assignment that goes with it. The process is finite and therefore it makes sense to do the degrees in series.

The material is the philosophy and the types of meaning that take our entire lives to complete. The process is transfinite and therefore it makes sense to do the degrees in parallel (or classes).
 

Glen Cook

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And I do think that this is a valid feeling as well, though I don't share that view. However by that notion we should also be given all three blue lodge degrees in the same day that we get the Chapter degrees. Since they are all part of the same story.

But why keep the Commandry out of this? What constitutes part of the story, and which degrees belong to the sequel?
But are the blue lodge degrees part of the same story? Remember, the two degrees in Masonry were conferred in the same day in Scotland.

As pointed out, KT is not part of the story Mark is certainly a separate story.
 
J

J.D.

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I think here in West Virginia they do all degrees and orders in one day. They mentioned going from RAM straight to KT Comm. right after. I will be hearing about my RAM vote on Tuesday. Anyone do OES yet? Me and the wife absolutely loved it. Order of the Beauceant is the KT version of OES. Would love to join that too or receive the degrees.
 

Warrior1256

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I think here in West Virginia they do all degrees and orders in one day. They mentioned going from RAM straight to KT Comm. right after. I will be hearing about my RAM vote on Tuesday. Anyone do OES yet? Me and the wife absolutely loved it. Order of the Beauceant is the KT version of OES. Would love to join that too or receive the degrees.
Hey Brother. I'm from W.V. (Beckley) but didn't get involved in The Craft until I retired and moved here.
 

KSigMason

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I think here in West Virginia they do all degrees and orders in one day. They mentioned going from RAM straight to KT Comm. right after. I will be hearing about my RAM vote on Tuesday. Anyone do OES yet? Me and the wife absolutely loved it. Order of the Beauceant is the KT version of OES. Would love to join that too or receive the degrees.
Hopefully they do it more than just one day, that's a lot of ritual for one day. I hope you enjoy the Royal Arch.

I'm Past Patron of my Chapter.
 

mrpierce17

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I think here in West Virginia they do all degrees and orders in one day. They mentioned going from RAM straight to KT Comm. right after. I will be hearing about my RAM vote on Tuesday. Anyone do OES yet? Me and the wife absolutely loved it. Order of the Beauceant is the KT version of OES. Would love to join that too or receive the degrees.

They don't do Royal Select Masters degree???
 
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