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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
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Heard it in OES. Masonry is founded on the building of the temple of God. Which in that part of the world, was and is Yaweh. Just an observation. Which amulet is it talking about? What book is that?

It was talking about amulets in general the book is masonry defined vol.1
 
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J.D.

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@J.D. "York Rite" is an American invention, so "old school" is subjective. In UGLE, HRA Chapters are part of the Grand Lodge and highly recommended to the Brethren.
If the requirements you've mentioned are true, it appears to be WV specific. Too bad for the Brethren who desire to lead but have no desire to join York Rite.

Yeah man I don't know. I think it's this way in a lot places, just isn't told to others to keep them held back or something. Not sure. I have a long Sat. ahead of me and getting up at like 4am to go :s
 

Warrior1256

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Yeah man I don't know. I think it's this way in a lot places, just isn't told to others to keep them held back or something. Not sure. I have a long Sat. ahead of me and getting up at like 4am to go :s
Congratulations Brother. I'm sure that you will have a great time. Once you have taken them you will be able to see them from the side lines each time that a new member is taken in in the traditional way. I entered the AASR during a two day reunion and this is the way that I am learning the individual degrees.
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Just got a call from the Grand Sec. All degrees and orders in 1 day. Short notice for Saturday, might have to get a room for two nights but I'm excited. Probably hear about how the vote on my petition tomorrow.

My apologies how rude of me not to congratulate you a big fat CONGRATULATIONS from me to you on the journey in which you are about to undertake
 

Ripcord22A

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Yeah man I don't know. I think it's this way in a lot places, just isn't told to others to keep them held back or something. Not sure. I have a long Sat. ahead of me and getting up at like 4am to go :s
No its not like that in alot of places...in the 3 jurisdictions that im familar with there is no requirement other then maybe having to turn in a MM profeciency

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Glen Cook

G A Cook
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The Past Master degree, which is given by "- - - - -", you guys are confusing me because some are A.F.&A.M. and some are not, is required to take the Warden station(s). Now this is in West Virginia, mind you. This may not apply to your Grand Lodge. All are different in some way or another.
You have a PM degree in your lodge?

You've been misinformed about the distinction between initials. My mother GL has been both.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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The Grand Sec. of RAM in WV also all the wardens and WM in my lodge.
I don't want you to feel we are ganging up on you. You've surprised us.

Do you have a code section to cite? Is this maybe an informal lodge requirement?

I would note that the HRA Grand Scribe does not speak for GL (I'm G Chapter Treasurer for my jurisdiction, so I'm not picking on grand officers. At least not at the moment. :)

Thanks for being a good sport about our inquiries.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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@J.D. "York Rite" is an American invention, so "old school" is subjective. In UGLE, HRA Chapters are part of the Grand Lodge and highly recommended to the Brethren.
If the requirements you've mentioned are true, it appears to be WV specific. Too bad for the Brethren who desire to lead but have no desire to join York Rite.
HRA is administered out of Great Queen Street and with the same presiding officer, but Chapters aren't part of grand lodge. We have Supreme Grand Chapter and Provincial Grand Chapters and different (lesser) officers. Chapter is so highly recommended that in my province, it is specifically noted to be an expectation for provincial advancement.
 

MarkR

Premium Member
Interesting. I understand the first king of England instituted the first York Rite something in 500 and something. I can't remember if that was in the video on the RAM site or what. But it was in there somewhere.
King Athelstan. The assembly at York in 926 is mythical. There is no evidence that there was anything remotely resembling Freemasonry going on. While it is probable that the peculiarly American collection of degrees into the "York Rite" is called that because of the legend, it is absolutely not a direct lineal descendant of such a meeting.
 
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J.D.

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Brother in US "mainstream" recognized jurisdictions the AF&AM or F&AM matters not. I am a member of 2 AF&AM jurisdictions that trace their lineage to the same jurisdiction and the differences are very noticeable.

However I find it very odd that a GL would require you have an appendent body membership before being able to lead your lodge. Also what if a brother just wants to serve his Blue lodge and has no desire to move outside of it?

As for you desire to advance in the fraternity we have terms for that...title chasers, degree collectors among others. Brother just by saying what youve said if you ever go AASR youll never get the kcch or 33rd as you have expressed desire to receive them. You can never ask or you wont receive them

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You think it means nothing to me. I'd say because you do not know me. If it wasn't an interest or something I cared about, I would have rolled over at this christian boys home at which I lived from 11-15 and admitted my grandparents were devil worshipers. You are treading into unforgiving territory when you go in that direction with this guy. So call me what you will, you have absolutely no knowledge of me to even begin to present an argument.
 
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J.D.

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You think it means nothing to me. I'd say because you do not know me. If it wasn't an interest or something I cared about, I would have rolled over at this christian boys home at which I lived from 11-15 and admitted my grandparents were devil worshipers. You are treading into unforgiving territory when you go in that direction with this guy. So call me what you will, you have absolutely no knowledge of me to even begin to present an argument.

Plus, merely expressing a desire to advance will kill any chances of that? If that is the case, then to hell with all of it. Good thing it is NOT a bad thing to advance and learn, now is it?
 
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J.D.

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I don't want you to feel we are ganging up on you. You've surprised us.

Do you have a code section to cite? Is this maybe an informal lodge requirement?

I would note that the HRA Grand Scribe does not speak for GL (I'm G Chapter Treasurer for my jurisdiction, so I'm not picking on grand officers. At least not at the moment. :)

Thanks for being a good sport about our inquiries.

Hey I'm not asking questions. I haven't gotten word of how my vote went yet but if that's what they tell me I am going with that, sir. I feel I should do what I have to do because it's like I am picking up where my grandparents left off. My grandpa was never a lodge master so this why I want to go York because I do not want to just be a car carrying mason but a severely active mason. Anything wrong with that? Bro GI Joe thinks there must be.
 

Ripcord22A

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Name calling really bro? Thats where you went with that? As for being active there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with it I commend you for wanting to be active all i was trying to say is that you seem to only be in it for the titles and "advance".

Who said you didnt care about freemasonry? What unforgiving territory are you talking about?

I also just wanted you to know that by saying out loud that you want to get certain degrees will forbid you from getting them. So know you know and knowing is half the battle.

I hope your vote went favorably and you enjoy ur Festival.

Bro GI Joe? Really? That's the best you could come up with? Lol

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Brother JC

Moderating Staff
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No one said you were asking questions @J.D. , Glen was saying you were being a good sport to deal with our questions. Nothing we've asked has been offensive, we're curious. None of us (and there are Masons here with long resumes) has ever heard of the requirement you've mentioned and we want to know more, that's all.
Please read our questions and comments with that spirit in mind.
 

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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You think it means nothing to me. I'd say because you do not know me. If it wasn't an interest or something I cared about, I would have rolled over at this christian boys home at which I lived from 11-15 and admitted my grandparents were devil worshipers. You are treading into unforgiving territory when you go in that direction with this guy. So call me what you will, you have absolutely no knowledge of me to even begin to present an argument.

I think there may be some confusion. The "it" that doesn't matter is whether a GL F&AM or AF& AM. It really doesn't. As I noted, my mother GL has been both.

In our culture, boldly declaring you are doing something just to get an office can be problematic. That doesn't mean you shouldn't desire to serve. But I had noticed the phrase as well.

If our NM brother's comments rose to the level of unforgiving for you, then you are going to have a very tough time of it in the fraternity and, indeed, in life.

And name calling, particularly in a forum with many military in it, isn't going to engender fraternal love. Besides, there are far better terms for Army than GI Joe. :)

I recommend we leave it here with all of our best wishes for a successful convocation and exaltation.
 
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J.D.

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Name calling really bro? Thats where you went with that? As for being active there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with it I commend you for wanting to be active all i was trying to say is that you seem to only be in it for the titles and "advance".

Who said you didnt care about freemasonry? What unforgiving territory are you talking about?

I also just wanted you to know that by saying out loud that you want to get certain degrees will forbid you from getting them. So know you know and knowing is half the battle.

I hope your vote went favorably and you enjoy ur Festival.

Bro GI Joe? Really? That's the best you could come up with? Lol

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I don't know your name and you're a military guy, yeah. And I will shout it from the mountain tops of the Appalachians that yes I desire all degrees. Not for vain purposes but it's all about earning something and not getting them for nothing. I'll tell you why, because here in West Virginia we do things a little different as I stated many replies previously. It just gets old saying the same thing over and over about YR here in WV. Can't do anything about it and that's just the way it is. And don't know about Sat yet since I haven't heard from the sec.
 
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J.D.

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I think there may be some confusion. The "it" that doesn't matter is whether a GL F&AM or AF& AM. It really doesn't. As I noted, my mother GL has been both.

In our culture, boldly declaring you are doing something just to get an office can be problematic. That doesn't mean you shouldn't desire to serve. But I had noticed the phrase as well.

If our NM brother's comments rose to the level of unforgiving for you, then you are going to have a very tough time of it in the fraternity and, indeed, in life.

And name calling, particularly in a forum with many military in it, isn't going to engender fraternal love. Besides, there are far better terms for Army than GI Joe. :)

I recommend we leave it here with all of our best wishes for a successful convocation and exaltation.

I think this whole forum is crap since I mainly got on here to trade pins not argue the states differences in YR and whatever else for dam near a week. Unrecognize me if that will help you cope. I am a Mason for the reasons I am a Mason and well, what can you do? Good luck and when you get some pins, let me know.
 

goomba

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I think this whole forum is crap since I mainly got on here to trade pins not argue the states differences in YR and whatever else for dam near a week. Unrecognize me if that will help you cope. I am a Mason for the reasons I am a Mason and well, what can you do? Good luck and when you get some pins, let me know.


Why are you being so hostile? Masonry is a vast and differing adventure. Part of discussing it is discussing the differences found though out the Masonic world.
 
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