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Tilers Oath

Brother_Steve

Premium Member
In most Prince Hall jurisdictions, the "Tyler's Oath" is accompanied by "Walking the Tyler's Sword".
Very interesting little ceremony. The Tyler's Oath is recited afterwards.
would a traveling brother from the grand lodge of new jersey be able to witness this if he was properly vouched for at a PHA lodge?
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
In most Prince Hall jurisdictions, the "Tyler's Oath" is accompanied by "Walking the Tyler's Sword".
Very interesting little ceremony. The Tyler's Oath is recited afterwards.
Here there is "a little something else" that you have to do at the beginning of an examination in addition to reciting the Tyler's Oath.
 

MasonicAdept

Premium Member
would a traveling brother from the grand lodge of new jersey be able to witness this if he was properly vouched for at a PHA lodge?

Yes, if you were out in the anteroom, and someone was asked to do it.
Most PHA Jurisdictions know of it, but I have rarely seen it asked of any visitor.
 

Alfred Taylor

Registered User
I've never heard of this before. The more I see makes it seem as though I barely know enough to gain entry into any Texas lodge...
 

Warrior1256

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I've never heard of this before. The more I see makes it seem as though I barely know enough to gain entry into any Texas lodge...
Wow! It sounds like your Brothers in the military lodge threw you into the deep end of the pool without your first swimming lesson! You will need to get with the Brothers in which ever lodge that you decide to petition. They will guide you through with the knowledge that you need. If visiting just explain your situation and hopefully they will understand.
 

Keith C

Registered User
Wow! It sounds like your Brothers in the military lodge threw you into the deep end of the pool without your first swimming lesson! You will need to get with the Brothers in which ever lodge that you decide to petition. They will guide you through with the knowledge that you need. If visiting just explain your situation and hopefully they will understand.

Well, a lot of it is jurisdictional. Here in PA we have no "Tyler's Oath" that we are to memorize. The examination consists of the means of recognition revealed in the MM degree plus an Oath and Obligation that is sworn on a VSM but read by the examiner and repeated by the person seeking admission. I guess i would be denied entry in many lodges that the GLofPA has Fraternal Relations with as we, as the only "Ancient" Grand Lodge do not have and do not learn a "Tyler's Oath."
 

Alfred Taylor

Registered User
Wow! It sounds like your Brothers in the military lodge threw you into the deep end of the pool without your first swimming lesson! You will need to get with the Brothers in which ever lodge that you decide to petition. They will guide you through with the knowledge that you need. If visiting just explain your situation and hopefully they will understand.


Lol. Funny you said it like that because in fact that was the way I learned how to swim.

Perhaps I am approaching it how I once approached the idea of having to prove profecient in the preceding degrees? Looking back on it, it wasn't in fact that hard. If that makes sense??
 

Alfred Taylor

Registered User
Well, a lot of it is jurisdictional. Here in PA we have no "Tyler's Oath" that we are to memorize. The examination consists of the means of recognition revealed in the MM degree plus an Oath and Obligation that is sworn on a VSM but read by the examiner and repeated by the person seeking admission. I guess i would be denied entry in many lodges that the GLofPA has Fraternal Relations with as we, as the only "Ancient" Grand Lodge do not have and do not learn a "Tyler's Oath."


Not sure if they have one in California either as my father has never heard of a "Tyler's Oath" either.
 

David Duke

Premium Member
Well, a lot of it is jurisdictional. Here in PA we have no "Tyler's Oath" that we are to memorize. The examination consists of the means of recognition revealed in the MM degree plus an Oath and Obligation that is sworn on a VSM but read by the examiner and repeated by the person seeking admission. I guess i would be denied entry in many lodges that the GLofPA has Fraternal Relations with as we, as the only "Ancient" Grand Lodge do not have and do not learn a "Tyler's Oath."

What you are calling an Oath And Obligation is probably very similar to the Tiler's oath.


David Duke
Secretary
Sam B Crawford #1418
New Caney, TX
 

Keith C

Registered User
What you are calling an Oath And Obligation is probably very similar to the Tiler's oath.


David Duke
Secretary
Sam B Crawford #1418
New Caney, TX

It likely is, but we do not have to, nor is it even suggested that we memorize it. Only those administering it need to know it, and they typically read it.
 

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
It likely is, but we do not have to, nor is it even suggested that we memorize it. Only those administering it need to know it, and they typically read it.
In Both OR and NM neither require that it is memorized, you can if you want...however like everything in Freemasonry every jurisdiction is differnt and even if you memorized yours and you went to another jurisdiction you wouldnt know theirs and they wouldnt know yours...they are probably close enough that you could pass but still....In NM i believe that it is one of the "sections" you can memorize and turn in and get credit for
 

David Duke

Premium Member
While not required to learn in Texas most new MM at my Lodge are taught the Tiler's oath and give it at the end of the MM esoteric exam. If you are proficient in the MM obligation the oath is very simple to learn.

When sitting for a certificate it is required and in most cases you must give it before you can even participate in the exam.


David Duke
Secretary
Sam B Crawford #1418
New Caney, TX
 
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