88DAM88
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My defenition of spiritual is that you belive in a supreme entety that reveals higher understanding thats beyond human and scientific understanding.
The words are chosen becuse they were not meant to be taken litteraly, they are only there to be pointers.
The dictomy between religion and science is a new idea, wich the Jesuits are good evidence for.
When modern freemasonry started to appear in the 1700s science and religion where highly entertwined with each other.
Interesting, your definition of spiritual is more a definition of religion and in my opinion somewhat touching on a definition of spirituality, but not of spiritual. My definition of spiritual is "non-material." I see matter and I see spirit, and I see that all of these are forms of energy. To me things of spirit are "meaning" "story" "ideas" thoughts" "intention" etc . . .
Much of Freemasonry, the language of the rituals and constitutions are extremely literal, use of exact wording to denote specific ideas being conveyed . . . one could not take the rituals in their old precise English crafted with extreme intelligence and literacy and render them in a lesser, colloquial manner and still have the same meaning, nor the same esoteric or spiritual conveyance. There is of course, much use of allegory and parable and symbol in Freemasonry, but I see them used to point to, or express, specific philosophies of morality and ethos. Science and religion, just as philosophy and metaphysics diverged, however, they are reuniting in our time as deepening of discoveries and understanding in all these disciplines are bringing them all closer again.
Thank you for your contribution to this conversation. I am bettered by the interaction and value it greatly even though we may as of yet disagree on some aspects, this is the joy of Fraternity to me. To listen and discover and be thereby expanded in my understanding of Humanity.