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Lodge Officer Duties - Junior Deacon

dfreybur

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By the way, both Florida regular jurisdictions - Like everywhere else, it's time you voted in mutual recognition. This I say having no authority whatsoever in either jurisdiction. Same to the other states that don't yet have local mutual recognition. Pair by pair, all ya'll need to do the vote.
 

Dontrell Stroman

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But that’s true, yours is not recognised by the UGLE.


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MBC why do you keep saying that ? We all know they arent recognized but I dont think in the sense you keep referring. PHA is regular and legitimate. The issue lies in the United States not England. Has nothing to do with lineage or not following landmarks etc...

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LK600

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By the way, both Florida regular jurisdictions - Like everywhere else, it's time you voted in mutual recognition. This I say having no authority whatsoever in either jurisdiction. Same to the other states that don't yet have local mutual recognition. Pair by pair, all ya'll need to do the vote.
I can only wish...
 

LK600

Premium Member
MBC why do you keep saying that ? We all know they arent recognized but I dont think in the sense you keep referring. PHA is regular and legitimate. The issue lies in the United States not England. Has nothing to do with lineage or not following landmarks etc...

It is regular and legitimate, but not recognized... which I sincerely wish we all could fix relatively soon!
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
PHA as a whole is recongized by the UGLE. The states that arent have to do with "exclusive territory". To keep saying my GL doesnt recognize yours is redundant. The same can be said for PH GLS that dont recongize the GL of England. Your right, I hope all is fixed soom also.

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Ripcord22A

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Bro Darrel the way you listed you lodge is in correct. It’s Labor System Lodge #324 Dist4 zone 1 Most Worshipful Union Grand Lodge of Florida(MWUGLoFL) F&AM, PHA.

It is not the MWPHAGLoFL. The MWPHGLoFL is clandestine and not regular. IF you were to go to say GA and attempt to visit the MWPHGLoGA and told them you hailed from the MWPHGLoFL you could possibly be turned away before they even saw ur Dues card.
Recognition is a huge deal on the PHA side of our PHAmily tree.


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Dontrell Stroman

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Bro Darrel the way you listed you lodge is in correct. It’s Labor System Lodge #324 Dist4 zone 1 Most Worshipful Union Grand Lodge of Florida(MWUGLoFL) F&AM, PHA.

It is not the MWPHAGLoFL. The MWPHGLoFL is clandestine and not regular. IF you were to go to say GA and attempt to visit the MWPHGLoGA and told them you hailed from the MWPHGLoFL you could possibly be turned away before they even saw ur Dues card.
Recognition is a huge deal on the PHA side of our PHAmily tree.


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Yes brother it is, or you would run into those masons that only need to hear PHA and be like come on in. It would go, im brother" XYZ hailing from the MWPHGL of Abiff. " You PHA right? Okay come in " ha ha. In all seriousness we all need to be aware who is recognized and who isnt

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Darrel B Smith

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Bro Darrel the way you listed you lodge is in correct. It’s Labor System Lodge #324 Dist4 zone 1 Most Worshipful Union Grand Lodge of Florida(MWUGLoFL) F&AM, PHA.

It is not the MWPHAGLoFL. The MWPHGLoFL is clandestine and not regular. IF you were to go to say GA and attempt to visit the MWPHGLoGA and told them you hailed from the MWPHGLoFL you could possibly be turned away before they even saw ur Dues card.
Recognition is a huge deal on the PHA side of our PHAmily tree.


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Oh ok sorry for get it wrong my and thanks for the correct my brother that's why I had to go look and the by laws so that I could get right

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MBC

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MBC why do you keep saying that ? We all know they arent recognized but I dont think in the sense you keep referring. PHA is regular and legitimate. The issue lies in the United States not England. Has nothing to do with lineage or not following landmarks etc...

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I was simply pointing out the fact that he claims he is not being recognised is a lie, but the truth is, they are not really recognised.
 

MBC

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PHA as a whole is recongized by the UGLE. The states that arent have to do with "exclusive territory". To keep saying my GL doesnt recognize yours is redundant. The same can be said for PH GLS that dont recongize the GL of England. Your right, I hope all is fixed soom also.

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There is no such thing as a "PHA as a whole".
I wouldn't mind if they said they don't recognise me as a mason, because it can be a truth for them.
 

Ripcord22A

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I was simply pointing out the fact that he claims he is not being recognised is a lie, but the truth is, they are not really recognised.

I’ll give you a Pass as you are not from America....but PHA is regular and recognized thru out the States save for 7or 8 States. His being one of those. PHA must trace their lineage to African Lodge 459, his can. While you are a UGLE Mason and UGLE recognizes most but not all PHA GLs and his being 1 that is not I understand that you couldn’t sit in His lodge or He in Yours, but you could sit with him in the MWPHGLoNM and you’d never know he wasn’t a “recognized “ brother. You don’t gotta keep pointing out that UGLE doesn’t recognize his GL.
 

Dontrell Stroman

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I’ll give you a Pass as you are not from America....but PHA is regular and recognized thru out the States save for 7or 8 States. His being one of those. PHA must trace their lineage to African Lodge 459, his can. While you are a UGLE Mason and UGLE recognizes most but not all PHA GLs and his being 1 that is not I understand that you couldn’t sit in His lodge or He in Yours, but you could sit with him in the MWPHGLoNM and you’d never know he wasn’t a “recognized “ brother. You don’t gotta keep pointing out that UGLE doesn’t recognize his GL.
Thank you, that's what I was trying to explain to him.

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