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Expelled members question

Cryptococo

Registered User
Hi guys, I was recently approached by a mason from Italy who was expelled for not paying his dues. He asked me if he could join another regular lodge in a different country and if the new lodge would be notified of his expulsion from the GLE. I don't think the GLE would be notified of his expulsion but I'm not sure so I told him to just tell the new lodge what happened. What do you guys think? Will the new lodge be notified?

Thanks
 

CLewey44

Registered User
This was a recent topic, similarly. I would say that he needs to contact his old lodge or grand lodge to try and catch up on his dues. Then demit and try to affiliate with a new lodge near him.
 

Rifleman1776

Registered User
He needs to answer honestly on any petition he submits for membership. Not paying dues is usually a 'suspension' not expulsion. Not answering honestly on a petition can result in expulsion. Masonic laws vary with jurisdiction but, I suspect, he is eligible for reinstatement at his original Lodge by paying the dues.
 

Cryptococo

Registered User
He has not had contact with his former lodge for approximately 1 year since he lives here in the US and his lodge is in Italy. He sent a letter to the lodge before leaving telling them he had to go away and they did not ask him to pay his dues, even though they did ask him before this happened. How can his new lodge know he was suspended then?
 

Elexir

Registered User
He has not had contact with his former lodge for approximately 1 year since he lives here in the US and his lodge is in Italy. He sent a letter to the lodge before leaving telling them he had to go away and they did not ask him to pay his dues, even though they did ask him before this happened. How can his new lodge know he was suspended then?

Well if he tried to petition and mentioned his old lodge they most likley contacted it through the usual channels.
Lodges are not floating sepretly, there is a lot of contact between GLs.
 

Cryptococo

Registered User
Well if he tried to petition and mentioned his old lodge they most likley contacted it through the usual channels.
Lodges are not floating sepretly, there is a lot of contact between GLs.
He did not mention his old lodge, as far as I know.
 

CLewey44

Registered User
To be honest, none of this makes a whole heep of sense. It's really pretty simple. He needs to be communicating with his old lodge in Italy and/or the GLofI. He can also have whatever new lodge he wants to affiliate with in the U.S. to help him with this. The only way they wouldn't know about all of this is if he lied on a petiton and acted like he was new to Masonry. If he were to properly demit his Italian lodge he would get a letter of good standing of some sort stating he is a MM and in good standing. To me it's no-brainer. Don't withhold info or it'll bite him in the tail eventually and he will be so embarrassed he won't be able to show his face around any lodges.
 

acjohnson53

Registered User
If I were him, I would catch my dues up in the Lodge that suspended him, then try and get in the Lodge in another country...That's part of Heritage, we never leave in bad standing /G\ from another lodge..../G\
 

Bloke

Premium Member
This is easy. Be honest. If he cannot be that. He should not be in the Craft.

Regardless of the GL - it would get sorted. If from a regular lodge, as an honourable man, he should pay his dues. If irregular, the process for dealing with him will vary place to place.. One thing I know. If he proves to be a liar, it will sink him.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
This is easy. Be honest. If he cannot be that. He should not be in the Craft.

Regardless of the GL - it would get sorted. If from a regular lodge, as an honourable man, he should pay his dues. If irregular, the process for dealing with him will vary place to place.. One thing I know. If he proves to be a liar, it will sink him.
Excellent point!
 

Number4

Registered User
I have a different question for y'all: if a mason has been suspended for NPD - and is still under such suspension, would that affect or eve prevent his son petitioning for degrees?
 
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