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Trayvon Martin's Dad from a clandestine lodge?

muata

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He is. I met him at a convention for unions last year in St. Louis and he greeted me as a brother.

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tldubb

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What would you consider clandestine? Because to me there is a difference between unrecognized and clandestine? So, I would like to hear from the Brothers and Sisters in this forum. To clarify I would like the opinions of MM and OES.


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bupton52

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International is a clandestine organization that was created out of the blue with no lineage to the mother GLs. Their website states the following:

Having been incorporated and chartered in August of 1950; our Charter empowered International Masons to practice Freemasonry, and operate as a Masonic Order, throughout the United States, its possessions and territories. This American issued charter empowers International Masons to the same rights as those charters issued directly from the Grand Lodge of England or the Grand Orient of France. Dr. Banks and his host of friends established a National Jurisdiction. Through their diligent efforts the same year, three States were incorporated: Ohio, New York and Illinois.

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OES513

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Freemasons or men whom improperly claming that they r freemasons and they unite in a lodge that has no consent of a Grand Lodge....or they continually perform work after ones charter has been revoked..
And to my knowledge Banks charter was revoked ..I'm in a group on facebook and one lady was claming she was a Pha....but researched showed her on a international page as a Past GM ..when confronted about it by the masonic group...it brought lots of drama about international and how Banks charter was revoked and they started the meetings in a beauty salon because grand lodge would not allow consent..now I'm not 100 on this ...I study eastern star not Masonic things...



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OES513

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What I have been taught in my 8yrs of traveling is that I recgonize AFAM and FAM and PHA as my SiStars and brothers..

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bupton52

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And to my knowledge Banks charter was revoked

Banks never had a "charter" to operate as a masonic body from a body that possessed the lineage discussed before.

I'm in a group on facebook and one lady was claming she was a Pha....but researched showed her on a international page as a Past GM ..when confronted about it by the masonic group...it brought lots of drama about international and how Banks charter was revoked and they started the meetings in a beauty salon because grand lodge would not allow consen

What is your name on FB? We may be in many of the same groups. I know the situation you are talking about.
 
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BigDre357

Registered User
I have always been taught that clandestine lodges are operating without a charter or warrant but you can be regular and not recognized I don't know much about international but I know they are recognized and you can find their regalia on pretty much any Masonic website or in stores. I don't know if his lodge has a charter or not but I would hope that they do.

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MarkR

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...I don't know much about international but I know they are recognized and you can find their regalia on pretty much any Masonic website or in stores.
I don't know of a single Grand Lodge that recognizes International. If you can point one out, I'll stand corrected. Someone selling their regalia simply means that someone is willing to make money from them, not that they're recognized.
 
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