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PHA Tattoos??
- Thread starter Jamarr/G\
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Brother, that refers to the written word, not the symbols. By your definition, every sign on every lodge, every ring, every painting ever made violates our Obligation.
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Now that isn't entirely true. As a M.M a true M.M not a suped-up-FC...you can put your your mark on your work for the benefit of instruction or to show your work is your work...but as a fellow-craft you cant...you still out in the quarry wroughting with stones with your S-L-& P looking to see if its good work...true work...square work to be brought to the temple...you only can give instruction to other FC and EA's so if you found something that was irregular...that had HTWSSKS...you wouldnt know what to do with it...
Its a matter of interpretation...dont get anything you cannot protect
MarkR
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In America, a Master Mason is quite complete. I'm a Scottish Rite Mason, and I'm of the understanding that the word we get in the 13° (Royal Arch of Solomon) is a little different than what the York Rite gives in the Holy Royal Arch. So who's right? And what difference does it make, since it's all allegory anyway, intended to convey lessons of morality?
This whole "being able to protect it" thing seems to be a Prince Hall thing anyway.
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This whole "being able to protect it" thing seems to be a Prince Hall thing anyway.
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"Protect" to me is a loose turn for respect...if you incured a person with a masonic emblem...and you did something of that sign and the person couldn't or didnt know how to react to the sign or whatever it might be...the conversation or masonic conversation would end right there as a matter of protection for me anyways
So, anyone who hasn't gone through Royal Arch is a "suped-up-FC?" That's a little harsh.
Little harsh but true...you was in the inner room...and left outside to be made a M.M outside the building site...never came back in...so how you meet in the Unfinished S-S...you think KS let those 12 who conspired to murder him...you think he let them back inside the temple? it was only them 12 that was made M.M at the grave site...it was 80k FC at back in the quarry...
thats just my opinion in PHA Tatoos... I dont see anything wrong with it...just know what your getting before you get it
MarkR
Premium Member
Okay, but if you tried me with York Rite Royal Arch stuff, you'd find me lacking, because I'm not York Rite. So even though I'm a 32° Knight Commander of the Court of Honor in the Scottish Rite, you consider me a "souped-up Fellowcraft?"
No if I asked if you were a Mark Master Mason..your reply would be no...thats ends the conversation on that...if you tried me on Select Master...I couldn't go there because I have not done the Consistory Scottish Rite...Things that are veiled in allegory can be debated upon, but a person who has only completed one side of the Compass is often referred to as a 33 fellow craft...
So going back to the M.M...I would ask you...Are you a M.M...what induced you to become a Master Mason...then I would ask you to give me the Master's Word if you are a Master Mason...
Is the Temple complete on the Scottish Rite side...I dont know...if it is...I'll have to see when I get there
perryel
Registered User
Select Master is YR; major inconsistency with your reply. Confirmed my suspicions...hope no one else engages you in this discussion. It's been unnecessarily disrespectful to every worthy Master Mason. Now we all can see why. As so many good men have stated, reading a monitor doesn't make you a Freemason.
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I was mistaken on the YR SR side...
Check my credentials
MWPHAGL of TX Pride of Beaumont Lodge 291
MWPHAGl of WA Daniel Chappie James #72
William L Gardner #82 Grand Chapter HRAM (WA JD)
Im not saying that you are not a Master Mason...but in a matter speculation and masonic allegory...if you are in the blue lodge only...you dont have the Master's word...
need a picture of my dues card too?
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crono782
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It is important to remember there existed a time before the Hiramic Legend was laid down. I wonder if, back then, they thought of themselves as incomplete before a MM degree ever was. Because somebody in antiquity decided to extend Masonry with the opportunity of attaining light beyond what already was, does that necessarily nullify/cheapen/lessen the degrees that came before? We read from Masonic scholars such as Pike, Gould, and others that the chiefest and most profound of Masonic truths are to be found in Blue Masonry, being that of the first three degrees. Something to ponder.
But remember before then...the MM had the Master's word...it wasn't until the FC degree was split in to two degrees...and the Master's word was forgot to be put back in to it
But Crono you are right
MarkR
Premium Member
The "Mason Word" of 17th century Scottish Masonry is far closer to our current "substitute word" than anything that is given as "the lost word" in high-degree Masonry today.
tldubb
Premium Member