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Is Christianity really compatible with Freemasonry?

goomba

Neo-Antient
Site Benefactor
Personally I prefer blue. I miss the old days when people who preferred red were hunted down and burned at the stake.

Sir I find this offensive. I am a red and darn nabbit I'm proud of it! But what about the oranges?

But seriously I would be considered an Evangelical Christian. Not only do I find zero, nothing zip, within Masonry to conflict with my faith; I actually find that it enhances it! Which is one thing I think it is suppose to do for each of us. YMMV.
 

Attila Weinberger

Registered User
"Is Freemasonry compatible with your theology/faith/belief system?" That is the question each candidate must ask themselves. Beyond that, debate degrades to argument and no one enjoys the benefits of harmony.
We have several threads going right now that are basically the same circular dead-end, and I for one would rather discuss blue vs red than read any more of this.

I second that !!!
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
Premium Member
Is Christianity really compatible with Freemasonry?

Of course it is. Further more Freemasonry is compatible with Christianity. At least, in the forms that I practice both. Your mileage may vary.
 

Isaih

Registered User
I don't think any official Christianity is compatible with true Christianity, these days.
At least the sacharine nonsense I've heard preached in the church.

So why not be a mason too?

To my understanding, Christianity is a path that Paul took, where he describes his battles to come out of the world of sin.

In order to achieve that I've learnt that I can't do it by my own strength of character, but must give up my will to god.

Which is easier said than done. And whilst I have failed at this point to achieve that personally, I wonder if it could ever be achieved when you have other loyalties. Or play loose with the word of god.
 
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admarcus1

Registered User
I don't think any official Christianity is compatible with true Christianity, these days.
At least the sacharine nonsense I've heard preached in the church.

So why not be a mason too?

To my understanding, Christianity is a path that Paul took, where he describes his battles to come out of the world of sin.

In order to achieve that I've learnt that I can't do it by my own strength of character, but must give up my will to god.

Which is easier said than done. And whilst I have failed at this point to achieve that personally, I wonder if it could ever be achieved when you have other loyalties. Or play loose with the word of god.
I impressed that after centuries of thinkers, writers, theologians, students, teachers,madmen and fools pondering, arguing, researching, and debating what it is to be a true Christian, you have definitively solved the puzzle. My Christian Bretheren are very fortunate indeed that you have found this forum.

Now if only someone can do the same for Judaism, I'll be all set.
 

BryanMaloney

Premium Member
I impressed that after centuries of thinkers, writers, theologians, students, teachers,madmen and fools pondering, arguing, researching, and debating what it is to be a true Christian, you have definitively solved the puzzle. My Christian Bretheren are very fortunate indeed that you have found this forum.

Now if only someone can do the same for Judaism, I'll be all set.

The irony is delicious, to read you praising someone so highly when this SAME person also is totally convinced that the Pope and Freemasons are conspiring together to destroy democratic governments and rule the world. As far as he is concerned, Freemasonry is the enemy of humanity. Irony can be so lovely.
 

admarcus1

Registered User
The irony is delicious, to read you praising someone so highly when this SAME person also is totally convinced that the Pope and Freemasons are conspiring together to destroy democratic governments and rule the world. As far as he is concerned, Freemasonry is the enemy of humanity. Irony can be so lovely.

Please tell be you are kidding, Brother Bryan. Please, please tell me you didn't think I was being serious, that I believe that after centuries of thinkers.........this one guy has found the answer. Read my first sentence again. The statement is ridiculous on its face. In your defense, you cannot hear the voice in my head that is dripping with sarcasm, but even so, I thought it was pretty clear.
 

Isaih

Registered User
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admarcus1

Registered User
Bryan I'd like you to quote me suggesting that the pope and freemasons are conspiring together.
Or apologise for misrepresenting my point of view..

Admarcus thanks for the invitation.
Jews read Daniel chapter 9 http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-9/
Then come back here and follow my previous instructions..

23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I would never have imagined that the same guy who could sweep away all the errant Christian denomination and schools of thought but the one true one would so easily reveal the key to the errors of the Jewish people in 5 simple verses from the book of Daniel, sweeping away 2000 years of Rabbinic Judaism, and all its offshoots.

I guess I was asking for it.

It must truly be nice to be so sure, and so clear, so confident that you understand perfectly what countless numbers have struggled with for generations upon generations.

Here is a thought, Isaih. You know the truth, so you are clearly not here to learn anything new. There would be nothing here for you to learn. You seem like a serious person, so I am guessing you are not here for your own amusement (and what kind of person amuses himself with the ignorance of others, after all). You must be here to teach then, to share what you have learned, that perfect truth. Well, you have tried valiantly, but clearly those on this forum are unwilling to listen. Whether it is due to an intellectual deficit or a darker force, it seems clear from the posts responding to you on numerous threads that you are wasting your time. I suggest that your teaching would bear more fruit elsewhere.

P.S. That first sentence was sarcasm. Just in case anyone missed it and interpreted it as additional praise.
 

BryanMaloney

Premium Member
Please tell be you are kidding, Brother Bryan. Please, please tell me you didn't think I was being serious, that I believe that after centuries of thinkers.........this one guy has found the answer. Read my first sentence again. The statement is ridiculous on its face. In your defense, you cannot hear the voice in my head that is dripping with sarcasm, but even so, I thought it was pretty clear.


I have autism. Sarcasm and I are only passing acquaintances, I'm afraid. So, I completely fell for it.
 

admarcus1

Registered User
That would explain it. If I have further sarcastic comments, I will tag them with a winking smiley face. And I am not being the least sarcastic when I say that. Tone is difficult to get across in a discussion forum under the best of circumstances.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
The movement is by the antis not by us. On our end that's all there is to it. if you want more you'd need to go to the antis for that. On the one hand it can be sadly entertaining to listen to the rantings of lunatics. On the other hand increased exposure to illness increases risk of contagion even with mental illnesses.
It is entertaining to hear some of the lunacy that some antis think of as perfectly legitimate arguments. I attend a Free Methodist church and this church has a anti-Masoic bias. When I had decided to join the Craft I went to my pastor to inform him of this and ask if this was going to cause me a problem at church. He assured me that it would not and that has been the case. I am a new Mason having been raised on 04 Aug 14. I can honestly say that I have not been asked to say or do anything that I would be ashamed to say or do in front of my wife or pastor.
 

BryanMaloney

Premium Member
>I have trouble imagining more inclusiveness than that.

Perhaps not every candidate likes swearing or having sacred books.

What would Freemasonry look like in a country that had never had an organized religion?

Perhaps not every would-be candidate is a man. Do you see where that leads?
 

JohnnyFlotsam

Premium Member
Perhaps not every would-be candidate is a man. Do you see where that leads?
To... equality?
Mind, I am not taking the "let's open mainstream Masonry to women" stance, but I see a rather important distinction between a candidate's beliefs re. Deity and whether or not said candidate is sporting certain anatomy. I will likely never sit in Lodge with two of the finest Masons I have ever known because of anatomy, but other than that distinction, there's nothing that makes them less of a Mason. By the same token, I don't really care what label is affixed to the nature of a candidate's belief, as long as he has that belief. Without it, he (or she) would indeed be that much less of a Mason.
 

BryanMaloney

Premium Member
To... equality?
Mind, I am not taking the "let's open mainstream Masonry to women" stance, but I see a rather important distinction between a candidate's beliefs re. Deity and whether or not said candidate is sporting certain anatomy. I will likely never sit in Lodge with two of the finest Masons I have ever known because of anatomy, but other than that distinction, there's nothing that makes them less of a Mason. By the same token, I don't really care what label is affixed to the nature of a candidate's belief, as long as he has that belief. Without it, he (or she) would indeed be that much less of a Mason.

So, just play paper dolls with the Landmarks?
 
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