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Answers to your Catholic Questions

dfreybur

Premium Member
Same song, different different verse -

In Masonry we don't discuss politics or religion. Lodge is a place we are safe from both partisan politics and sectarian religion. Lodge is a sanctuary away from these topics.

This forum is a place were the topic of Catholicism can be discussed because non-Masons are allowed and the forum is not a tiled or official Masonic environment. When you go to introduce yourself at a local lodge, that building will be such a sanctuary in a way this forum is not.

Are you in your heart comfortable with the fact that going to lodge you are not allowed to discuss the topic and will never be allowed to? You will know that Masons include members of every religion on the planet. You will be in a group of men many of whom you will never learn their religious membership. So you will never know the extent of religious diversity in your own lodge. You'll end up knowing the religious membership of some by offhand remarks, emblems on their cars, mention at remote events. Others you'll never have any idea. And that's all a part of the deal you sign up for when you become a member of our family.
 

RyanC

Registered User
As those of you know, I have a new name and I will be using it. I will be bowing out of this conversion and no longer address said person (the ignore button is nice), who is here not to learn but start trouble.
 

NY.Light

Registered User
Same song, different different verse -

In Masonry we don't discuss politics or religion. Lodge is a place we are safe from both partisan politics and sectarian religion. Lodge is a sanctuary away from these topics.

This forum is a place were the topic of Catholicism can be discussed because non-Masons are allowed and the forum is not a tiled or official Masonic environment. When you go to introduce yourself at a local lodge, that building will be such a sanctuary in a way this forum is not.

Are you in your heart comfortable with the fact that going to lodge you are not allowed to discuss the topic and will never be allowed to? You will know that Masons include members of every religion on the planet. You will be in a group of men many of whom you will never learn their religious membership. So you will never know the extent of religious diversity in your own lodge. You'll end up knowing the religious membership of some by offhand remarks, emblems on their cars, mention at remote events. Others you'll never have any idea. And that's all a part of the deal you sign up for when you become a member of our family.

If I am accepted to a lodge, I would not press my faith on any brother. I only being it up because it is in the appropriate sub forum and many people seemed to have various questions.
 

Willaim Perkins

Registered User
It's again me, with my silly, stupid questions. Why Catholics don't wanna 'union' with Orthodox & Protestants? I bet, if Christ was alive, he would like to see -- United/One Church on The Earth! So, let's do it! Let's make -- 1, common Church.
As a recovering catholic, I think that God is none too happy with the slaughter of millions of people by the catholic church since its inception in the 3rd century. As to Jesus, he is alive today.
 

NY.Light

Registered User
As a recovering catholic, I think that God is none too happy with the slaughter of millions of people by the catholic church since its inception in the 3rd century. As to Jesus, he is alive today.

By individuals and groups of individuals in the Church. No organization of man is without its fault of individuals. The Church has publicly apologized for this and other historical abuses (per Pope St. John Paul II). While not correcting the wrongs, the spirit of contrition should be commended.
 

Willaim Perkins

Registered User
By individuals and groups of individuals in the Church. No organization of man is without its fault of individuals. The Church has publicly apologized for this and other historical abuses (per Pope St. John Paul II). While not correcting the wrongs, the spirit of contrition should be commended.
It that like the priest admitting molesting but not having to pay for his crimes?
 

NY.Light

Registered User
It that like the priest admitting molesting but not having to pay for his crimes?

Or the masons in New York who shot and killed a man while passing him to FC? Point is there are bad nuts in every organization; that does not by itself tarnish the teachings and philosophical principles of said organization.

Is there a question in here?
 

NY.Light

Registered User
In 2000 Pope John Paul II on behalf of all people, apologized to Jews by inserting a prayer at the Western Wall that read, "We're deeply saddened by the behavior of those in the course of history who have caused the children of God to suffer, and asking your forgiveness, we wish to commit ourselves to genuine brotherhood with the people of the Covenant." This papal apology, one of many issued by Pope John Paul II for past human and Church failings throughout history, was especially significant because John Paul II emphasized Church guilt for, and the Second Vatican Council's condemnation of, anti-Semitism.The Church acknowledged its use of some forced labour in the Nazi era; Cardinal Karl Lehmann stated, "It should not be concealed that the Catholic Church was blind for too long to the fate and suffering of men, women and children from the whole of Europe who were carted off to Germany as forced laborers".

-From the wiki page "catholic church and nazi germany.

Also, the section on relations with the Jews from the document "Nostra Aetate" from Blessed Pope Paul VI is particularly interesting to this particular vein of discussion. It can be found here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_...ts/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html
 

Willaim Perkins

Registered User
My Brother, your beliefs are your business and I will defend them; however, the token apology by a former pope is not good enough. I carry emotional, mental and sexual scars, and the only thing that stops me from killing the priests and nuns that I encounter is that, like Hanoi jane, taking out the garbage is still against the law, My truest regret is that the ONE priest that I had every intension of killing in the most horrific manner I could imagine, God took before I could administer justice,.
 

NY.Light

Registered User
My Brother, your beliefs are your business and I will defend them; however, the token apology by a former pope is not good enough. I carry emotional, mental and sexual scars, and the only thing that stops me from killing the priests and nuns that I encounter is that, like Hanoi jane, taking out the garbage is still against the law, My truest regret is that the ONE priest that I had every intension of killing in the most horrific manner I could imagine, God took before I could administer justice,.

I cannot know your pain, and can only pray and wish you the best. However, I cannot abandon my faith because some monsters twisted it to serve themselves. Please understand, I see beauty in the Catholic faith. I look to Christ, not the wrong and terrible conduct of some members. I offer my condolences, and hope that you understand I am not trying to defend those abusers or diminish the pain you experienced. This thread is to answer questions some may have in relation to the Catholic faith, not to defend evil doers within the Church. Sincerely, I say to you, peace be with you.
 
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