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the Lion, the Bull, the Man, the Eagle
- Thread starter pointwithinacircle2
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Yes. This is abundantly clear.
(snicker) Yup, this is abundantly clear too. Perhaps you should examine your overall and specific assumptions as to who the true target audience is before you spout out what you believe is obvious.
That really does depend upon what the aim is. It hasn't been a waste for me. I have obtained much Light as to who you are through your posts. Thank you!
I hope that you meant this is what you indended to do and not what you are telling others to do.
LAMason
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So, enlighten us.
What "popular scientific thought" are you referring to?
Which "traditional explanation of the meaning of the Royal Arch" are you referring to?
Which publication(s) "officially sanctioned by Grand Chapter" are you referring to?
What "conclusions" are you referring to?
Have you limited your research to only what was written in the 19th century?
Who do you consider to be "reputable authors"?
On what particular subject or opinion are you saying "the majority of information provided by reputable authors is on point."?
And again:
Let's talk about that. "To use" means to employ, it implies that you do something. "Working tools" implies that the thing we employ is outside ourselves. "Moral Sense", well I learned an interesting definition of morality today. There were two definitions of morality actually. The first was the standard "adherence to acceptable social standards". The second and more interesting definition (to me) was "to do that which creates true happiness within oneself" (paraphrased). I like that definition. Of course to understand it you have to know the difference between "happiness" and "fun". Fun is the stuff that is enjoyable right now. Happiness is when you look at your whole life, the big picture, and are filled with good feelings about who you are. And really, isn't that the true purpose of morality? I think so. Sure, we can pretend it is about other people. But really, the true purpose, the most real thing about morality is that we sacrifice quick and easy fun so that we can experience ourselves as good people in the long term. (OK, most of you weren't taught that, and maybe don't believe it, but consider what it really means.) When you think about it like that, the big picture of what "working tools" you might use to achieve it becomes clearer (at least to me).
So James, that is my guess as to what you are talking about.
Happiness is "Chance Contentment". Ethics are social; Morals are personal. Societal Laws are Interpersonal Agreements; some of which are based upon Natural Law. When you don't respect Societal Laws, you reap Interpersonal Consequences; some of which are Natural and some of which are Unnatural. Natural Laws are Principles that provide Natural Consequences; some of which impact Interpersonal Relationships. When you do not respect Natural Laws, you reap Natural Consequences. The Working Tools are based upon Natural Laws; laws that affect us personally and interpersonally. When these natural laws-principles are internalized and understood, they can guide our Choices and Decisions. When we apply them skillfully and toward beneficial ends, we get beneficial results. This brings Contentment by design; not by chance.
Going back to the OP: "How do these symbols [the Lion, the Bull, the Man, the Eagle] relate to Masonry? How do you relate to them?
I recognize them as Characterizations of the four Cardinal Seasonal Directions with an ancient Constellations. They could also represent qualities that may or may not be things to understand, pursue and adopt in one's life.
As far as their relationship with Freemasonry goes, they could be used within Morality Plays to inspire men of any generation to dress up as Knights. ;-)
Going back to the OP: "How do these symbols [the Lion, the Bull, the Man, the Eagle] relate to Masonry? How do you relate to them?
I recognize them as Characterizations of the four Cardinal Seasonal Directions with an ancient Constellations. They could also represent qualities that may or may not be things to understand, pursue and adopt in one's life.
As far as their relationship with Freemasonry goes, they could be used within Morality Plays to inspire men of any generation to dress up as Knights. ;-)
Perhaps the two headed eagle is Alluding the Janus and all that his lore implies. Or perhaps it alludes to before "Order" and after "Chaos".
You write that as if speculation should end.
Also to note, was your "...That particular eagle is depicted in Masonry as having 2 heads - one looking into the Earth and one out into the Heavens." not a speculation?
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Okay. So, you're saying that your statement "...That particular eagle is depicted in Masonry as having 2 heads - one looking into the Earth and one out into the Heavens." was not a speculation. I get it. You proved your statement through direct observations repeated over a 10 year period with trained people involved. Amazing!
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Your wisdom and insight are astoundingly unbelievable!
LAMason
Premium Member
Did I miss something here ?
LAMason
Premium Member
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"The foregoing observations provide a compelling argument against continuation of the program within the intelligence community. Even though a statistically significant effect has been observed in the laboratory, it remains unclear whether the existence of a paranormal phenomenon, remote viewing, has been demonstrated. The laboratory studies do not provide evidence regarding the origins or nature of the phenomenon, assuming it exists, nor do they address an important methodological issue of inter-judge reliability.
Further, even if it could be demonstrated unequivocally that a paranormal phenomenon occurs under the conditions present in the laboratory paradigm, these conditions have limited applicability and utility for intelligence gathering operations. For example, the nature of the remote viewing targets are vastly dissimilar, as are the specific tasks required of the remote viewers. Most importantly, the information provided by remote viewing is vague and ambiguous, making it difficult, if not impossible, for the technique to yield information of sufficient quality and accuracy of information for actionable intelligence. Thus, we conclude that continued use of remote viewing in intelligence gathering operations is not warranted."
— Executive summary, "An Evaluation of Remote Viewing: Research and Applications", American Institutes for Research, Sept. 29, 1995
dfreybur
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I pondered the list of animals a bit -
Two wild species on the outside of the list, two domesticated species on the inside of the list. Two four legged animals to start the list, two two legged species to end the list. Sharp teeth, dull teeth, small teeth, no teeth. Salvation, strength, reason, freedom. I get all sorts of associations as I think about these animals as symbols.
Two wild species on the outside of the list, two domesticated species on the inside of the list. Two four legged animals to start the list, two two legged species to end the list. Sharp teeth, dull teeth, small teeth, no teeth. Salvation, strength, reason, freedom. I get all sorts of associations as I think about these animals as symbols.