CLewey44
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You found the loophole, brother!
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You found the loophole, brother!
lilhut3579
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So I mean the regalia mostly and there has been a hand sign. i assume its making a square but basically making a square with the index finger and thumb.
Ripcord22A
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Our regalia is nothing like that of a GREEK frat. they wear hoodies and what not with their letters on em. As for hand signs of its not the DG and PS of a degree, the GHSD or the grips then it is not masonic
There are some similarities between PHA and the Divine 9 fraternities. Most of the Divine 9 fraternities founders were PHA at some point in time. They both use lines to initiate candidates (well not sure if all PHA do). They are similarities in the ritual as well. Their rituals used ours as a blueprint or pattern. I belong to a Divine 9 fraternity. Divine 9 fraternities are historically Black ones in case you were wondering. I am not saying that PHA is like a college frat, I am saying there are similarities.
Ripcord22A
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Those are AWESOME! but i wouldn't call that regalia. I have a hoodie with the S&C on the front upper left and plumbs on the sleevs and "WE MEET UPON THE LEVEL" written in the back with certain letter replaced with working tools.
It's paraphernalia.
acjohnson53
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Although I did not pledge while in college because I had other things on my mind, there is no similarity of college frat and the Masonic Faith, as said the Masonic Brother are held accountable for their action a nd up hold the true meaning of the Craft...
I respectively disagree. There are definitely some similarities. But they are totally different organizations. PHA masonry definitely had a profound influence on the Divine 9 fraternities.
Dontrell Stroman
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Agreed.
The Traveling Man
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I don't think jackets, hats, etc are symbolic of a college frat. It's no different than someone in the union to wear a union shirt or jacket, or an employee to wear something bearing the name or logo of his job. I don't have a jacket yet, but I have Masonic shirts, earrings, rings, bracelets, pins and car decals. I'm proud to be a Mason so I show it. But it isn't so much for the public to see as it is for other Brothers to notice it. Where I'm at I see it more with the older members. They have the jackets, the license plates, multiple pins, etc. I see it more with Brothers from my Grand Lodge than with the PHA Brothers, but I suspect it's probably about even. I'm 33 and the members in my Lodge that are younger than me I haven't seen with Any of those items yet.
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Umm, "Masonic Faith"?
Ripcord22A
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U caught that too, huh? Not sure what that is....
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Lol. I noticed it too and just eased on down the road.
Dontrell Stroman
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I will say that some lodges near college universities govern themselves in a way that a college fraternity does. They pledge, party, "Step" and design their jackets in a way college frats do. I would not venture out to say this is a PHA thing. I know many clandestine AF&AM have lodges set up all over the big cities in TN. A lot of times brothers see guys acting and dressing this way, and automatically assume it's a PHA thing. I don't think it's a unrealistic assumption due to the fact how would you know PHA from clandestine mason without asking or seeing a charter. They use the same symbols as all regular masons.
Dontrell Stroman
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Without a doubt I believe it's younger masons. In my own experiences, I've yet to see a older mason acting that way. That's not to say their aren't some out here.
There are many PHA Shriners videos on youtube doing the camel walk. I assume you have to be a PHA mason to be a PHA Shriner. Kinda like stepping.
Dontrell Stroman
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I don't know much about the Shriner's due to the fact that I am not one, but I am aware that PHA Shriner's do the "Camel walk". My objection is, Shriner's and Freemasons are two different and separate organizations. That might be the custom and tradition for PHA Shriner's to do the camel walk, but it's not for PHA freemasonry.
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So those are not PHA masons? I never said it was the custom. You said you never saw older brothers act that way. There were definitely some older brothers in that video.
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Dontrell Stroman
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Yes they are masons, but they are not acting under freemasonry when it comes to dancing. They are doing something their appendent body come up with. I still haven't seen older freemasons, meaning just blue Lodge brothers dancing and acting like a College frat. But it's not a Masonic offense to dance anyways. I saw Shriner's doing a dance for their organization, but I've yet to see PHA masons representing the blue lodge dance in that kind of way.
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