Oh, and in freemasonry, inner honour is whats inportant, maybe horizonal, but vertical ? While positions like mwgm might appear vertical, like all men who meet on the level, for me a GM, as a man and Freemason is my equal, he's simply first amoung equals. What's really at work is respect not honour... respect for his office and respect for the man, hopefully both, but i (and no doubt he) would take the later over the first anyday...