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EA Proficency

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
I know that, what i meant was learning and turning it in piece meal like that doesnt seem like it shows proficiency to me, but I am neither a WM or a Texas Mason so my opinion is worth less then my .2c

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Difficult to make any kind of determination unless you are familiar with the work of both jurisdictions. I am not so I will refrain from offering an opinion.
 

Phil P

Registered User
I also have friends who were DeMolays with me back in the 1980s in Northern California that are Masons today (One of my friends being the current Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of CA). They have the option of doing a "long format" or "short format". What that entails I'm not too sure as to their protocal. But just like everything else, what's done in one state is totally different in another. Btw, hopefully one day I'll get back out to Nor-Cal & visit a few of the historic lodges out there
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
I did all three of mine in complete form like most everyone else. However, I don't have a problem allowing the candidates doing them in sections. I believe that the point of this is to make it less daunting so that the candidates will actually do them in lodge instead of continually putting them off.
 

David Duke

Premium Member
That is pretty cool. We had to stand prof. In all sections and do the next degree in one night. It was long!

In Texas it all depends on the WM, and instructor, in a lot of cases the candidate will turn in all 3 sections which takes about 35 min. Then we will eat dinner and the degree will follow.

In others they sit for proficiency one evening and the degree will be at a later date. When turned in by sections it is normally because the candidate is having problems getting with his instructor and the instructor wants him to do it by sections because of time. Other times it is simply the way the instructor wants it done.

It ALL cases it is the will of the WM.


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Saed Nyarko

Registered User
Congratulations to both of you Sir.
Last night I brought & delivered my "A"game & was found proficient in the first section. Also last night another EA did his 2nd & 3rs sections & was likewise voted proficient. He'll be Passed to the degree of Fellowcraft either later this month or sometime next month depending on his college finals schedule
 

Phil P

Registered User
In Texas it all depends on the WM, and instructor, in a lot of cases the candidate will turn in all 3 sections which takes about 35 min. Then we will eat dinner and the degree will follow.

In others they sit for proficiency one evening and the degree will be at a later date. When turned in by sections it is normally because the candidate is having problems getting with his instructor and the instructor wants him to do it by sections because of time. Other times it is simply the way the instructor wants it done.

It ALL cases it is the will of the WM.


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Absolutely right
 

otherstar

Registered User
My lodge either lets candidates do their EA turn in all at once, or in two sessions. If they do it all at once, it's done after dinner. Once they turn in their proficiency, they are voted on and if they pass, we confer the FC degree that night. In my first lodge (where I received the degrees) all EAs turned in all sections at one setting and then had the degree conferred upon them that night if they passed (they usually did because the instructors wouldn't let them turn in their EA work until they were ready to pass).
 

Descartes

Registered User
Really intereting to learn that proficiency can be broken up into sections.
Just for my own clarification, the three segments are "Q & A" "Oblg" and "floor work"?

Not sure I would have chosen to do it in pieces. After waiting a few months between each I was excited to advance when proficiency time came.

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