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Scoops

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Royal Ark Mariner? The U.S. includes that in AMD to the best of my knowledge.
Yup, Royal Ark Mariners. In England and Wales it's controlled by the Grand Lodge of Mark Master Masons. Every RAM Lodge is "moored" to a Mark lodge and bears the same name and number. For example, I'm a member of Ashlar Lodge of Mark Master Masons #1090 and Ashlar Lodge of Royal Ark Mariners #1090 is moored to us.

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Keith C

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Royal Ark Mariner? The U.S. includes that in AMD to the best of my knowledge.

Yes, this is true in the US. As I was recently invited to join AMD this was one of the Degrees that was mentioned. In the US it is a requirement to be a member of a Holy Royal Arch Chapter in order to be invited to join AMD.
 

CLewey44

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Yes, this is true in the US. As I was recently invited to join AMD this was one of the Degrees that was mentioned. In the US it is a requirement to be a member of a Holy Royal Arch Chapter in order to be invited to join AMD.
That's the way I understood it myself. I'm receiving RA degree next week so maybe down the road I'll get the nod for AMD.
 

Keith C

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That's the way I understood it myself. I'm receiving RA degree next week so maybe down the road I'll get the nod for AMD.

It was a surprise for me that I was invited.

The PM that I have been working on the 3rd degree with nonchalantly told me as we were about to start our practice session; "Oh, by the way on Saturday I nominated you for membership in AMD and we unanimously approved you, you will be getting an invitation letter in the next week or so." I suppose it is one of those things that just happens if enough members know you and think you would be a good fit and they have an opening. I also have been told it is one of those thing that the surest way to not be invited is to ask!
 

David612

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It was a surprise for me that I was invited.

The PM that I have been working on the 3rd degree with nonchalantly told me as we were about to start our practice session; "Oh, by the way on Saturday I nominated you for membership in AMD and we unanimously approved you, you will be getting an invitation letter in the next week or so." I suppose it is one of those things that just happens if enough members know you and think you would be a good fit and they have an opening. I also have been told it is one of those thing that the surest way to not be invited is to ask!
I don’t get it... why wouldn’t you want someone who’s keen?
 

Keith C

Registered User
I don’t get it... why wouldn’t you want someone who’s keen?

It is like the 33rd Degree in AASR, it is considered an honor, just to a lesser degree (pun intended!) The thought process is that you do not bestow an honor on someone who actively seeks an honor.
 

CLewey44

Registered User
It was a surprise for me that I was invited.

The PM that I have been working on the 3rd degree with nonchalantly told me as we were about to start our practice session; "Oh, by the way on Saturday I nominated you for membership in AMD and we unanimously approved you, you will be getting an invitation letter in the next week or so." I suppose it is one of those things that just happens if enough members know you and think you would be a good fit and they have an opening. I also have been told it is one of those thing that the surest way to not be invited is to ask!
Oh nice, that's great they invited you. I've heard you should never ask to join AMD and other masonic bodies. I think showing an interest is not a bad thing and has worked in my favor. But that's different than saying "Hey I want to join XYZ, sign me up!"
 

bro.william

Premium Member
Masonic etiquette can be a very nuanced thing ... and, as everyone around here will point out, it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. As someone fairly new to it all, my policy is to show interest in most of the things I come across, but also be careful to listen and learn, ask questions, and err on the conservative side of protocol. I don't think anybody would mistake the fact that I'm game for all the new masonic experiences I can get; but I always try to ask stuff and express interest in ways that make clear I'm not wanting to step on toes or make unwarranted assumptions.
 

EVG Yumul

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Is this what the Appendant Bodies look like in Australia? :D

Actually, it depends which State you're in.
I've attached the Masonic Orders charts for NSW & ACT, Victoria, and Queensland.

We're all upside-down anyway and all of our animals will actively kill you, so why bother visiting us?
 

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Bloke

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Actually, it depends which State you're in.
I've attached the Masonic Orders charts for NSW & ACT, Victoria, and Queensland.

We're all upside-down anyway and all of our animals will actively kill you, so why bother visiting us?
How funny ... And I see the Victorian one was " authorized" by RWBro Terry Bates (Colonel Terrance Raymond “Terry” Bates ) .. not sure why he was cited as "Authorizing" it.. Commerce is still going - sadly Bro Terry is not, he passed in 2015. There are two errors I see for Victoria; August Order of Light is missing, as is AAONMS.
 
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