Capricornguy
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What's the difference? I'm in AF&AM. Does this mean I can't attend F&AM?
What's the difference? I'm in AF&AM. Does this mean I can't attend F&AM?
Who you can visit is based on who your GL is in amity with, it has nothing to do with the initials. Even the simple answer Winter gave isn’t completely correct. A perfect example is Virginia; founded by lodges from multiple Grand Lodges yet they ended up AF&AM.
I personally find it more distracting than useful. Spell it out in your constitution but drop the suffix, the way UGLE does.
No US GLs were warranted by the GLE’s. Some provincial GLs were, but only a few. It has no application for the majority of GLs. As noted, some GLs were formed by lodges from both GLs. Indeed, some have have changed their designation.Short answer, it only has to do with whether your GL was originally chartered by the Antients or by the Moderns. Today, I have seen it has little bearing on the day to day and in the US has nothing to do with visitation as I believe all GL are in amity. Unless you are visiting between MS and PH which is still problematic in some locales.
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No US GLs were warranted by the GLE’s. Some provincial GLs were, but only a few. It has no application for the majority of GLs. As noted, some GLs were formed by lodges from both GLs. Indeed, some have have changed their designation.
Firstly, The GL of PA is the only GL that is and has always been "Ancient." When the "Ancients" and the "Moderns" United, PA was the only Jurisdiction where no "Modern" Lodges existed and thus no change was made to the ritual of the "Ancients" or our Ahimon Rezon. PA is F&AM.
In reality the "F&AM" and "AF&AM" can not be used to determine whether or not your GL is considered "Regular" by any other given GL. You just have to see what GLs your GL is in Amity with. To find this out, ask your Secretary.
SCGL AFM has been Ancient for 283 years, since UGLE entered the colonies in Charleston SC
Sorry but what?
The ancients and moderns united to form UGLE so either your GL has its roots in provincial GL under the ancients prior the unification or its a complete fraud.
SCGL AFM has been Ancient for 283 years, since UGLE entered the colonies in Charleston SC
To accuse a brother of fraud simply for mistakenly mentioning UGLE rather than one of its precursors seems overly harsh and, quite frankly, unmasonic.Sorry but what?
The ancients and moderns united to form UGLE so either your GL has its roots in provincial GL under the ancients prior the unification or its a complete fraud.
283 years
Celebrating 283 years of Freemasonry in South Carolina - First South Carolina Lodge Chartered 1735
I will no longer be part of this forum.
to insult a regular and internationally recognized GL as a fraud is one the highest insults any Brother can deliver. I will no longer be part of this forum. I hope moderators take due note.
MODERATOR/ADMIN Please remove my info from your files.
To accuse a brother of fraud simply for mistakenly mentioning UGLE rather than one of its precursors seems overly harsh and, quite frankly, unmasonic.
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