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Jayhawk, I’m wondering, you joined Commandry and later a brother told you about the exclusive nature of it. Were you not made aware of it when you joined?

Clear example of ignoring the truth.. Are you not aware of the WRITTEN doctrine of the two other significant religions that inform its followers to subject or kill the nonbelievers?

The answer to your question would require a reset of many of your deeply held beliefs. Can you handle that? Are you the type of person who will ignore truth because it conflicts with what you “believe “?

I think most Masons would agree that if the lodges had to pay property taxes most of them would fall. I know I know you don’t agree but this isn’t really for you. Whether or not they are obligated to pay is in the law which is why a discussion on the law is relevant. For the avid truth seeker I...

this is the LAW. The application of the LAW to the facts of any given case are irrelevant. If you don’t know that maybe you should talk less and listen more.

As there are only 2 relevant to this discussion, which of the 2 would the lodge be in.

Wrong again… It’s 2025 most people, you excluded, can clearly see I didn’t say it. All I did was point to where the USSC said it. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them.

Sorry Sir, your feeble attempt to label my posts as sovereign citizen nonsense, which I never said, and render them as meaningless are quite telling. I’m just here to talk about FACTS. As your response are clearly pointed at me personally and do not address the subject, it might suggest you...

Consider this, if the 10th amendment reserves to the states some. rights how’s it possible for the United States government, which is devoid of some rights to create states equal to the states referred to in the 10th amendment? Is that not the created thing creating the creator?

It does not matter if your lodge predated the Grand Lodge of Texas or the State of Texas as it stand then, or today Never said or suggested it. All I have tried to do is present here a few details about history that impact the health and well being of lodges. Since there have been no posts...

I ask you, where would the Lodges be if they were not peopled by men who bear the yoke of US citizenship.

Thanks you sir.. “Peopled by its residents” you are correct and this is why things have run afoul…. Bank of U. S. v. Deveaux, 5 Cranch [9 U. S.] 61. In more recent cases, it has been determined that no express averment need be made of the citizenship of the members of a corporation suitor, but...

Now we’re getting somewhere.. I agree, Grand Lodge is independent but it does hold a charter. Who granted the Charter? It is this group of people that constitute a “state” in the “constitutional sense” and several of these groups constitute the “American Confederacy “ as stated by Chief Justice...

Winter, I thought you were done? Nothing you said is correct.. The creation of the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas is the work of men ie individuals. Example/ Fact… Gl of Lousianna chartered our Holland Lodge, then called Holland Lodge no. 3 I think. Holland and the other lodges gave back...

The constitution uses the word state in two ways, relevant to this conversation and I will gladly cite the cases if you like. I find it easier to think in terms of “groups of people “ when I hear or say the word “state” again not because I just want to it’s because the courts say so. Relevant to...

Yes, you are correct, I am in the no DL camp but not because of my interpretation of the law it’s because of the court interpretation. While your head is in the right place, you're mistaken regarding my contention. 180 degrees off actually. The Grand Lodge of Texas established in 1837 is...

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Sir, it really bothers me to think that you or anyone reading this thread would walk away with the idea that you somehow protected all the institutions in play here. I would submit that it’s you and people like you who create the situation we find ourselves in. Let’s consider the facts I offered...

Really? I guess the default respect only went one way.