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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    Not likely, however I know quite a few Hiram award recipients and what their contributions to Freemasonry were. I am sure that increasing membership by the person in question is his major contribution.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    No, and it is not my place to decide who does deserve the Hiram award, as it is defined, the award is for contributions made to Freemasonry, I suppose increasing membership could be considered a contribution....at least by some.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    I will tell you what I was told The purpose of MM is to make more Masons Seriously.....I was told that, and the person who rold me ended up a Hiram Award winner....go figure.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    I do not know how others evaluated Freemasonry prior to joining, I researched it locally and determined that the values held by Masons was something I could identify with and wished to emulate in my own affairs. To discover that it was only BS for some was disconcerting for me, but, as I saw it...
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    You are still fixated on the bar drink issue, you need to move past that, this discussion is not about alcohol, regardless of how much you try to make it so
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    I think I understand brother Thomas position. For me, the lodge is a place of refuge. When it radically changes, it will cease to be that for me.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    Not reported, or GL does not care, either way, it has remained for over a year
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    Thats my point, the lodge did it anyway, I will add that there is an antagonistic attitude toward GL at that lodge, which is another topic all together.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    Lets get off of the bar, it is not about the bar.......it is about breaking the rules.
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    Like I stated, I have no issue with bars in lodges, and I am still an active member of my lodge (which does not have a bar) I was simply sharing an observation and do not expect anyone else to see things the same way I do, however, loss of membership is a big problem for the fraternity. I see...
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    In all due respect, I think some of you are missing the point. It is not about the bar, personally, I do not have any issues with bars, I do enjoy socializing. The issue is this......Bars are not allowed by GL, period. Every new member gets a copy of the constitution, they read one thing then...
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    Is the end really near for freemasonry ?

    There is always a push to build membership numbers, at least at the lodges I am familiar with. There have been many people admitted which IMO were not masonic material. These members actually took over a lodge and even installed a bar on the top floor, not acceptable action for a blue lodge. It...
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