Burnt One, Looking for Clearity

Discussion in 'Becoming a Freemason' started by Brother Will, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. Brother Will

    Brother Will Registered User

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    Hey brother's I will try to make this post short as possible.

    I joined Masonic Lodge Phalander #100 out of Norfolk VA which is of Scottish Rite Affiliation. I have been part if the lodge for a year now and have not advanced once. I am still an EA. I have not learned anything but the first degree, which I taught myself. I am currently looking for a new lodge to join but is very sceptical now due to my experience.

    My question here is What is the difference between Prince Hall and Scottish Rite? How do I find if the lodge is a regular lodge or bogus?

    Also I read that you need to be raised to Master Mason in a blue lodge before being able to join SR? Which i did not achieve before joining my current lodge.

    Just looking for clarity and help in any way.
     
  2. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member

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    What's the name of your Grand Lodge? If it's not the GL of VA or the MWPHGLVA then you've likely joined a bogus organization.
     
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  3. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    There is no regular Scottish Rite grand lodge in the US. As indicated, there are only two legitimate grand lodges in VA.

    What is the name of this grand lodge?
     
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  4. LK600

    LK600 Premium Member

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    There is no Lodge Phalander #100 out of Norfolk VA, at least not one recognized that I can locate. I could be wrong but...
     
  5. Brother Will

    Brother Will Registered User

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    I stopped communication with them because of how everything played out but I'm not sure whats the name of the grand lodge is. I searched around and could not find anything on them at all.
     
  6. Brother Will

    Brother Will Registered User

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    So are there not any Legitimate SR lodges in Virginia or US?
     
  7. SimonM

    SimonM Registered User

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    There are no legitimate SR lodges in the US that works in the craft degrees.

    The legitimate bodies that exists works only in the 4-33 degrees
     
  8. Elexir

    Elexir Registered User

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    However isnt there lodges in Louisiana that gives the SR Craft degrees that are under the GL of Louisiana?
     
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  9. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    Yes, however its not the whole GL. Its only a few lodges from my understanding that were working them before the GLoLA came to be.

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  10. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    I also looked and could not find anything on them...
     
  11. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    There are some good lodges in Norfolk, both Prince Hall and GL of VA. Seek one out.
     
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  12. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    It sounds like you've been conned. Lick your wounds, contact either a mainstream or PHA GL in your area, and start over.

    If you have any doubt as to which GL you are joining, come back here and run it by us. We will NOT provide you with bad direction.
     
  13. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    Sounds right.
    Agreed!
     
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  14. Brother Will

    Brother Will Registered User

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    Can anyone tell what is the difference between Mainstream and PHA besides That PHA is predominantly African American lodges?
     
  15. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    PHA(Prince Hall Affiliated)-traces is lineage to African lodge 451 in Boston. It was founded by Prince Hall and chartered by, I believe, Scotland

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  16. Brother Will

    Brother Will Registered User

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    So as far as the teachings, rituals, and degrees... are they the same?
     
  17. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    Ritual varies between grand lodges and even lodges. The teachings and degrees are same as other US GLs.
     
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  18. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    I believe that you'll find the PHA lodges using ritual very similar to that which is found in historical USA focused exposes, leaning toward military style lodge activities/performances with a heavy bias toward Christian slants.

    This is from word of mouth from those I have talked with within the PHA world.
     
  19. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    Boy, ain't that the truth! ;)
     
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    Fully accepted in England and Scotland.
     

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