They is a brother here that lives in the area but doesn't post much anymore. @raymondswalters He would know for sure.
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Challenges on the street
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dfreybur
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Apparently were recognized for a short time by edict from Haas. That's when the revolution happened by the rest of the grand line moving up.
You asked "are" in the present tense. I gave history. The present tense answer is no but the history is interesting in sort of the way people on the highway slow down to look at a wreck.
I didn't realize that they even recognized them at all. The version I heard was he got in trouble cause they didn't want Black men joining their grand lodge and he tried to make it easier.
Bloke
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Is there much difference? If you act in a racist way, you're racist ? I think so...
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acjohnson53
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yeah it's a great big mix up with them blue house and them shriners in some jurisdictions...
The Traveling Man
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In Michigan it would work like this:
If there was an EA and FC present who both had to do proficiency, Lodge would open in the EA. The EA would give his proficiency, then he and the FC would leave. Lodge would go to MM for a vote. Then it would be lowered to FC. The FC would re-enter, do his proficiency then leave. They would go to MM again for vote. Then go back to EA, both the EA and FC would re-enter. The business would be conducted in the EA and then close in the EA. If there were FCs and no EAs present in the above scenerio, the Lodge would open and close on the FC.
Warrior1256
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I have never run into this situation but I think that this is probably the way that we would do it here.
dfreybur
Premium Member
In my jurisdictions a candidate can present proficiency at a Stated meeting, a Special/Called meeting or before his degree.
At a degree we open to the degree of the degree (no kidding), call down, admit the Brother, do the proficiency, call up. At that point he becomes a candidate because he isn't of that degree yet. The degree ceremony starts.
At a Stated meeting we open to that degree. Same with a Special/Called meeting specifically for a proficiency. So far I have never encountered brothers of other degrees presenting on the same night. There's always the meeting next week for that.
It can happen in theory. Open in EA. Do EA proficiency. Dismiss EAs. Call up to FC. Do FC proficiency. Call down to EA. Admit EAs. Same pattern for any combination of proficiencies. I've only done this in practices not in opened meetings so far.
So that's slightly less complex than Michigan.
At a degree we open to the degree of the degree (no kidding), call down, admit the Brother, do the proficiency, call up. At that point he becomes a candidate because he isn't of that degree yet. The degree ceremony starts.
At a Stated meeting we open to that degree. Same with a Special/Called meeting specifically for a proficiency. So far I have never encountered brothers of other degrees presenting on the same night. There's always the meeting next week for that.
It can happen in theory. Open in EA. Do EA proficiency. Dismiss EAs. Call up to FC. Do FC proficiency. Call down to EA. Admit EAs. Same pattern for any combination of proficiencies. I've only done this in practices not in opened meetings so far.
So that's slightly less complex than Michigan.
The Traveling Man
Registered User
We've had an EA, FC and MM do proficiencies in the same night. A lot of opening and closing. But with our busy schedule, candidates in waiting, EAs and FCs still waiting to be passed and raised, I guess it's better that way.
acjohnson53
Registered User
Y'all were burning some Mid-night oil on that one.../G\