Freemason Lodges in Prison ??

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Travelling Man91, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    While at work last night, an inmate noticed my Masonic ring. After noticing it, he started asking me questions out of the ritual (Masonic conversation ). I didn't respond except with a laugh. As he continued to ask questions, I finally said "are you a mason ?" He said "I was raised in Prison ? " This was new to me, so I asked where did they receive their charter ? (Red flag in my mind ) He said he did not know, but the lodge was made up of men who were freemasons before they went to prison and wanted to carry the craft on. I've heard of crazy things going on under "Freemasonry" name, but never this. Has anyone heard of this ?
     
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  2. NY.Light.II

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    Never heard of it. But wouldn't surprise me. Probably irregular. My question is if he claims he was raised, why would he be asking about ritual?
     
  3. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Not asking questions in the sense of gaining knowledge, but in the sense of questioning a brother to see if he is a mason. He asked questions about me traveling..... Etc
     
  4. NY.Light.II

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    Interesting. Again, I would not be surprised if he went through something that had the veneer of regular freemasonry.
     
  5. Levelhead

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    Awesome!! Amazing .. Would love to hear more about that!


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  6. Glen Cook

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    These are clandestine on anyone's chart.
     
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  7. Levelhead

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    Very true... Very true!!

    Would just like to hear how they meet? Where, i mean you only have so much free time as a group in prison!


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  8. MRichard

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    He is asking you questions but doesn't know anything about his lodge's charter or grand lodge. That is precious. I wouldn't entertain this foolishness.
     
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  9. junae

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    May really just want to know for REAL , that what he may-have been taught, was really how it is.
     
  10. Levelhead

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    Just ask him to show you the coded books he learned from


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  11. JamestheJust

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    I understand that in the second world war Masonic lodges operated inside German prison camps. I have not heard that any of those lodges was granted a charter by a regular GL, but equally I have heard nothing but respect for those brethren and their lodges.
     
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  12. NY.Light.II

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    Point taken.
     
  13. Travelling Man91

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    It's not so much as entertaining what he says because I will no violate my solemn obligation, but I will listen to him speak because I'm learning something new.
     
  14. Travelling Man91

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    100% agreed.
     
  15. Travelling Man91

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    Well he stated that he learned all he knows from former active regular masons.
     
  16. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Exactly what are you learning from a clandestine/bogus mason?
     
  17. JamestheJust

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    So is the position that no matter how many regular brethren may be in a prison, under no circumstances should they hold a lodge?

    Perhaps they should form their own Grand Lodge and issue charters to other prisons.
     
  18. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Would your grand lodge grand them a charter?
     
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  19. Glen Cook

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    Operated by regular Masons. Lodges without a territorial jurisdiction long held the right to form on their own with regular Freemasons. The prisons referred to by OP would be in a territorial jurisdiction and were not formed by regular Masons. Indeed, they would likely be a gang adopting some of our signs and symbols
     
  20. Glen Cook

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    And just how many regular Masons do you think there are in prison?

    As the prison is within a Masonic jurisdiction, it could not form its own Lodge or GL.
     

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