Great Priory of England Withdraws Recognition of the Grand Encampment of the USA

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  1. Blake Bowden

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    Great Priory of England Vote to Withdraw Recognition of the Grand Encampment of the USA

    I was sent an e-mail with the below image showing of a letter from the Great Priory to Provincial Priors that on the 26th of November the Grand Master's Council voted to recommend at the 15 May 2013 Great Priory meeting that recognition be withdrawn from the Grand Encampment of the Knights Templar of the United States of America.

    While reason is not stated in the letter, this most likely stems from the Grand Encampment of USA recognizing the Grand Priory of the Scottish Reformed and Rectified Rite of the U.S.A earlier this year.

    As I wrote earlier, the Grand Priory of the Scottish Reformed and Rectified Rite is not permitted for Texas Masons, while the international developments continue...

    S&F,
    -Bro Vick
    Masons of Texas - Writer

    LettertoallProvPriorsandV-C_sreGrandEncampmentUSA.jpg
     
    Blake Bowden, Dec 2, 2012
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  2. suomilander

    suomilander Registered User

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    now what happens?
     
    suomilander, Dec 3, 2012
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  3. Brother JC

    Brother JC Vigilant Staff Member

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    We wait till 15 May and see if we can still knee side-by-side with our fellow Knights...
     
    Brother JC, Dec 3, 2012
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  5. KSigMason

    KSigMason Traveling Templar Site Benefactor

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    Thanks for the update Blake.
     
    KSigMason, Dec 4, 2012
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  6. Bro_Vick

    Bro_Vick Moderator Premium Member

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    Where's the love? ;) I am the one that sent it to him.

    Seriously, the ripple of this may be worse than it appears on the surface. Specifically to some of the invitational aspects of Christian Freemasonry.

    S&F,
    -Bro Vick
     
    Bro_Vick, Dec 4, 2012
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  7. Brent Heilman

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    That was the question I had. I am not a part of the York Rite yet, but will be eventually and I was curious to what extent that may affect me down the road when going into the Commandery.
     
    Brent Heilman, Dec 4, 2012
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  8. bro jimmie

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    Question

    What do you know about Manly P.Hall?
     
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  9. bro jimmie

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    Manly p.m. hall

    Was he a Sinner Saint
     
    bro jimmie, Dec 4, 2012
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  10. CajunTinMan

    CajunTinMan Registered User

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    Thanks for posting
     
    CajunTinMan, Dec 4, 2012
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  11. THurse

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    We are all Brothers, but this is sad news.
     
    THurse, Dec 5, 2012
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  12. CajunTinMan

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    It is just being proposed at this time. Hopfully it won't pass.
     
    CajunTinMan, Dec 5, 2012
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  13. Bro_Vick

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    Given the tone and direction that intervisitation is to be cooled or denied completely, I believe it has a good chance of passing.

    S&F,
    -Bro Vick
     
    Bro_Vick, Dec 6, 2012
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  14. CajunTinMan

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    Why do you believe it will pass?
     
    CajunTinMan, Dec 10, 2012
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  15. widows son

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    What the hell is going on in freemasonry?!
     
    widows son, Dec 10, 2012
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  16. kosei

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    I hope it doesn't
     
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  17. widows son

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    So what's the difference between the GP of Scotland and the grand encampment? Is it an irregular body?
     
    widows son, Dec 11, 2012
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  18. Brother JC

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    It's not the Great Priory of Scotland that is the issue, it's the Grand Priory of the Scottish Reformed and Rectified Rite. Completely different animals.

    The Grand Encampment recently recognized said Rite, and the Great Priory of England does not.
     
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    Brother JC, Dec 11, 2012
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  19. widows son

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    Gotcha
     
    widows son, Dec 12, 2012
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  20. suomilander

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    the letter indicates that the "die has been cast" and May 15th is just the formal execution of the decision.
    the letter states that priory members are to avoid meetings involving the Grand Encampment ...pretty clear they don't like the R&R.
    Grand Encampment will stick its head in the sand and refuse to withdraw its ill-advise recognition of R&R.
    Does the R&R advocate that they can confer all the degrees of Freemasonry? If true I know of no GL that would allow that.
    If untrue then the R&R better hire a better PR company.
     
    suomilander, Dec 13, 2012
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