Great Priory of England Withdraws Recognition of the Grand Encampment of the USA

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  1. Bro_Vick

    Bro_Vick Moderator Premium Member

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    They do in their native country, Switzerland, where to be a Mason a man must be a Christian to join the order of Freemasonry. Their number system is 1-7, and is off of the CBCS Martinist ritual.

    The issues comes down to two competing groups of CBCS in America, the first and oldest was established in the 1930s and was agreed that men who are given permission (or so I believe, I will have to check) can go to Europe and receive the degrees, but cannot start a priory in the US to stop any potential competition with the KT. This is a very elite group of Masons (about 45 across the country), and meet for dinner once a year at Masonic Week. In 2010, William Koon II was denied entrance into this order, then went to France and received the degrees with the hope of starting a more open (so the claim is) CBCS here in the states for Christian Freemasons who are also members of the Knights Templar.

    This establishment caused an uproar with the older CBCS, which caused them to both start litigation and go to the Conference of Grand Masters of North America, which recommended that no Grand Lodge recognize the NEWER organization. This past year at Masonic Week, the newer CBCS was recognized by the Grand Encampment of the USA and installed the current sitting Grand Eminent of the Grand Encampment of the United States as their Grand Whatever (I can't remember the title).

    Because of the recommendation of the COGMNA not to recognize the newer CBCS, our Past Grand Master put out the decree that Texans cannot join the newer CBCS. The recognition of the Grand Encampment apparently didn't sit well with the Great Priory of England (even though I haven't heard it spelled out) and has lead up to the eventual withdraw of recognition.

    I think that sums it up, I did this off of the top of my head, so some one correct me if I am inaccurate.

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  2. Bro_Vick

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    They held an informal vote and it passed, they can't make it legal until the 15th of May. Unless something drastically changes in the next five months, it will pass.

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  3. Bro_Vick

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    As a follow up to this the following invitational organizations could be directly impacted because of the withdraw of recognition:

    Holy Royal Arch Knight Templar Priests

    KNIGHTS of the YORK CROSS of HONOUR (KYCH)

    The Order of St. Thomas of Acon

    All three are tied back to England, and are where the original charters came from, this could cause further repercussions if recognition of the Grand Priory is withdrawn.

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  4. Brother JC

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    Does the Great Priory actually have any control over these Charters now, or are they fully evolved American Grand bodies?
     
  5. STLamb

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    Wow, as a newly raised MM, between this and the blow up in Arkansas over the Shrine, I think I'm just going to stick to the Blue Lodge and not mess with any appendant bodies. It just seems safer...
     
  6. Blake Bowden

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    Any updates?
     
  7. KSigMason

    KSigMason Traveling Templar Site Benefactor

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    I know the Grand Priory of the Rectified Scottish Rite of the USA (Grand Encampment one) was dissolved in the January.

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    I hope all fraternal relations can be mended and re-established.
     
  8. Howard1977

    Howard1977 Registered User

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    It is my understanding this has been resolved already.

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  9. Deonrwms

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    So wait, does this appertaining to Texas Masonry alone or does that chop the head off of KT organizations in the USA, or just in Texas?


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  10. stuntman98

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    This pertains to all knights in America, but based on this "letter" we have to wait until may to find.
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  11. Howard1977

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    This has been resolved. They threatened to withdraw recognition, but they didn't. This is not going to affect us here in the states at all

    Life is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid. - Bro. John Wayne


    Brother, Companion, & Sir Knight Howard E. Hubbard. New Hope #480 Eldon, Iowa A.F. & A.M and Springville Lodge #139 A.F. & A.M. Springville , Iowa, Clinton Chapter #9 R.A.M, Ottumwa Council #31.R. & S. M., Malta Commandery #31 K.T, State of Iowa
     
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