Irregular lodge?

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Triclocarbon, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

    4,373
    1,186
    183
  2. JTM

    JTM "Just in case" Premium Member

    2,353
    26
    38
    i reflect bill lins' sentiments...
     
  3. Triclocarbon

    Triclocarbon Registered User

    9
    1
    0
    @Bill, Thank you for your words and advice; it truly brought peace upon me. I was afraid to admit this at first, I didn't know how I would be treated. Thank you for the humility; you've let me know I've not lost my dignity in this folly. @Tower, Thank you for relating to me; it is amazing to know that others have over come the same obstacle. Knowing your history lets me know that my issue will one day be history also. The likeness you have displayed in your post makes me feel not so distant. @bupton, I am ashamed of the lodge's appearance; looking at it now, and having seen many proper lodges, makes me ask how could I ever believe it was real. I thought it just lacked funding; 4222 Lancaster Dr. Dallas, TX; the WM is Walter T. Hadnot. If you google map and click satellite view you can go to the street view and look at the signs in the window and on the door. Bill_Lins, that website you found is something put up, not sure by who, but when I was recently looking around for details on the lodge I stumbled upon that site as-well, and it appears to be names I was familiar with while attending that lodge. It was very shocking to see it listed as a business and in that fashion. It really drove home the fact that it was irregular; I was paying dues to people for their financial gain it seems, but I can't be sure. Thank you all for this active forum, I am extremely grateful for the words of advice, compassion, likeness, and even encouragement. You guys are great. Godbless you all.
     
  4. towerbuilder7

    towerbuilder7 Moderator Premium Member

    251
    24
    38
    You are most definitely welcome, Brother...........please keep in touch with us, and let us know WHAT you need on your road to progression, and WHEN you need it............NUFF SAID..................Bro Jones
     
  5. Bro.BruceBenjamin

    Bro.BruceBenjamin Premium Member

    430
    15
    18
  6. CajunTinMan

    CajunTinMan Registered User

    358
    14
    18
    I looked them up. That's a great site.
     
  7. crono782

    crono782 Premium Member

    1,598
    380
    103
    Wow, a heartbreaking story.
    @Triclocarbon, I'm definitely humbled by you.
     
  8. kenlew25

    kenlew25 Registered User

    21
    0
    0
    Greetings. I have a question on the phaxlys site i've noticed that all the GL listed are AF&AM. and if they are bogus or irregular than why do they have the status of all the GL rather it be reinstated, dissolved, in good standing or not in good standing. so if they are bogus then why should the status matter. and im just asking
     
  9. Bro.BruceBenjamin

    Bro.BruceBenjamin Premium Member

    430
    15
    18
    The status matters because it shows rather or not these bogus lodges are still actively trying to deceive people into joining them.
     
  10. kenlew25

    kenlew25 Registered User

    21
    0
    0
    im confused as to why would a bogus GL be reinstated and who would reinstate them
     
  11. kenlew25

    kenlew25 Registered User

    21
    0
    0
    ok my next question would be if you started a grand lodge and if so how do you become regular
     
  12. Bro.BruceBenjamin

    Bro.BruceBenjamin Premium Member

    430
    15
    18
    Brother Kenlew25,

    You need to start a new thread asking the above question.
     
  13. kenlew25

    kenlew25 Registered User

    21
    0
    0
    sure thing bro. long as i have been traveing. the fact of any GL being bogus has never been raised, but subordinate lodges yes....so i guess thats where my confusion comes from
     
  14. bupton52

    bupton52 Moderator Premium Member

    572
    198
    63
    Where exactly are you located kenlew25? As the brothers have stated, there probably won't be any "new" GLs forming in the US anytime soon, but there are ways that your current jurisdiction can be a part of an already existing regular jurisdiction.
     
  15. dizlwizl

    dizlwizl Premium Member

    64
    11
    28
    I know exactly what you mean. I was also a member of Jeremiah grand lodge through C.H. GERALD. I was the only one driving from tyler to Dallas to try to attend meetings. I had made posts on masons of Texas years ago when I was trying to find my way. Then I found myself in Dallas. I can agree that they are top flight when it comes to community service and study information, but the legitimacy of the lodge always bothered me. When I came back to tyler and found myself to be challenged by a brother, and upon showing my traveling card, they came to tell me that I belonged to a clandestine lodge and that I need to research for myself the legitimacy of the lodge. And like you, I found that to wasn't apart of the glot or mwphglot. But they are solid in their beliefs. I was always treated as an outsider because I was coming from tyler so leaving the lodge was easy for me. One, I have a baby on the way and also got tired of feeling like a piggy bank for them. I had made some friends even though they probably don't consider me one now. But I am on the right track now trying to place membership in my area.

    Freemason Connect Mobile
     
  16. Rauchbier1987

    Rauchbier1987 Registered User

    29
    0
    0
    As a side note a legitimate lodge should have its original charter in plain view. So if you dont see a charter on the wall its possibly not a sanctioned lodge.

    Brother Morris
     
  17. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

    7,373
    3,342
    183
    I had no idea that the irregular lodges were so prevalent.
     
  18. Hotep357

    Hotep357 Registered User

    10
    3
    3
    I'm super late but I would like to add that these bogus lodges display warrants but have no lineage I was apart of one Called the MW Scottish Rite Grand Lodge of Arkansas n everytime I ask for proof of this Grand Lodge Charter from Romania that John G Jones received no one can show it.
     
    Warrior1256 and bupton52 like this.
  19. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

    7,373
    3,342
    183
    Good point!
     
  20. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

    3,935
    2,394
    133
    In general regular grand lodges don't have charters or warrants as such. Their founding member lodges had charters from parent jurisdictions that they turned in. What regular jurisdictions have is historical lineage since turned in plus recognition. The fact that a jurisdiction shows its warrant is suspicious in and of itself.
     
    Warrior1256 and Glen Cook like this.

Share My Freemasonry