is freemasonry what you thought it would be when you first joined?

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by • RM, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Hancock

    Hancock Registered User

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    No, Freemasonry, as I have experienced it in the 1 1/2 years I have been in it is not what I exexpected. My lodge is like a composite of every complaint about lodges. Boring meetings, no communication, no Masonic education, poor ritual work, VERY bad dinners (my dogs eat raw, I don't,) aprons that haven't seen bleach since it came in a glass bottle, and the list goes on.

    90% of the members are "In Dues Only" members, who only stay current on their blue lodge dues because it is a requirement for the appendant bodies. I still haven't gotten my apron. I did however, recieve my dues renewal form.

    This is why I no longer go to lodge meetings anymore, and may demit next year.
     
  2. David612

    David612 Registered User

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    I was thinking the same honestly.
    That said seeing the spark inside a new EA who had been assigned to you to teach makes it hard to walk away- the light of that egar Brother makes all the indifference and general neglect seem less pressing.

    Once he is raised I may look at other lodges to expand my experience.
     
  3. CLewey44

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    I hate to hear that. Hopefully you can find something in other bodies or "shop" around for a lodge that may be further away but only meets once a month or even every 5th Saturday kind of thing.

    Btw, are you saying bleach used to come in a glass bottle?
     
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  4. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    Yes I did and that is okay good sir. :D
     
  5. dfreybur

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    It used to come in a ceramic jug but folks confused it with moonshine. So they switched to that newfangled glass stuff.

    I came to Freemasonry for the civic activities. We actually do some of those.

    I stayed for the fellowship. To me a Stated meeting is a chance to spend time with my Brothers so we conduct business to make sure everyone remembers to be there on the same day. As a result I'm never bored by Stated meetings. The reason I'm there is the Brothers and that's where they are.

    I also came and stay for the philosophy and history. So I make up and present Masonic education talks at most Stated meetings and offer one from my repertoire any time I go for a visit. Actually presenting talks also helps me never be bored. It's even more interesting wen someone else gives a presentation.
     
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  6. Hancock

    Hancock Registered User

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    Yes. Back in the days when we had to beat hydrogen and oxygen against a rock just to make water.
     
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  7. David612

    David612 Registered User

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    Now hipsters do it cause it’s retro.
     
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  8. JJones

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    It definitely did not live up to my expectations.

    There are several brothers working to improve the Masonic experience in their lodges and jurisdictions, however, and I applaud their efforts.
     
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  9. JamestheJust

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    What really surprised me was that no GL had sent out search parties to find the genuine secrets. After 300 years they were still content to sit and wait. They had more patience than I.
     
  10. Elexir

    Elexir Registered User

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    How do you know?
     
  11. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    >How do you know?

    GL officers come out of local lodges. If they were looking for the genuine secrets they would certainly consult the senior brethren of their own lodge. Also GLs like to show how important they are, so some would certainly advertise to their members that the GL was doing this great work on their behalf.
     
  12. LK600

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    My answer to the original question would be both yes and no. To start with the negative, I must say that my original thoughts on The Lodge side of Freemasonry were probably unfair by being slightly unrealistic in my expectations of Brothers within the Lodge. I expected the Brotherhood to be without clicks and all Brother's being supportive and respectful of each other. Well, like any organization, there is some reflection of society in general within our ranks, and people will be human. Still, it was (and to some degree still is) a shock to observe and experience the bickering, infighting, and maneuvering.

    On the positive side of things, everything I was looking for was there. If not openly practiced or understood, it was all contained within the material either in Lodge, or within the numerous books and papers written over the course of the last hundred and some years. I personally love to read, and thoroughly enjoy researching. I am looking to address those Brothers who do not enjoy those things in a manner that benefits them and helps them find whatever aspect of Masonry they are looking for.

    As I and others have said previously, the Brothers do not exist to support the Lodge, but the Lodge exists to support the Brothers.
     
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  13. Warrior1256

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    Nope.....it is BETTER than I thought it would be.
     
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  14. jermy Bell

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    Not sure anymore. Learn rituals, initiation of new brothers, business meetings. (Repeat) x's.
     
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  15. coachn

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    You forgot fundraisers Bro.! Don't forget the fundraisers!!!!
     
  16. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    Open, vote, close, repeat...i think that was a techno song 5 or 10 years ago.
     
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  17. Olmecwarrior

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    I agree with most of what everyone is saying. It's not what I expected fully, but does have the potential and I do recieve satisfaction of the fraction of what I am receiving through my blue lodge. I will say, if I had to rely on my lodge meetings, fish fry's, and the annual car wash we do, I would be totally dissatisfied. Instead, I supplement my Masonic experience by researching and reading from the thousands of books and literature devoted to freemasonry..... watching Masonic talk shows like Masonic Roundtable & Prince Hall Think Tank..... listening to Masonic podcasts such as X-Oriente & Whence Came You.... and engaging in the Masonic online world through Masonic communities like this and many others. These things give me hope that it can be better. So I'd advise brothers ( myself included) to be the change in your lodge and make it what you expect it to be. It may take a while to get others on board, but the possibility of your expectations being met and reality hopefully can meet somewhere in the middle.
     
  18. LK600

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    Very much the same here. I must say... I've learned more from my ever growing library than I have from being present in Lodge (and I enjoy my lodge).
     
  19. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    I've learned a lot more on this forum than I have in lodge!
     
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  20. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    If I were to include this site, it's definitely raised my overall experience.
     
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