Lodge Officer Duties - Junior Deacon

Ok calm down Brother! I just asked if your GL was the Union GL and if it wasn't then I wanted you to know that you were in a clandestine lodge. Being that you are under Union GL then all is good as MWUGLoFL is the regular PHA GL in FL. HOWEVER out side of PHA it is not recognized ONLY DUE to the fact the GLoFL doesn't recognize it.

I am a member of 2 jurisdictions that have mutual recognition with PHA and still couldn't visit your lodge nor you ours as we don't have mutal recognition with your GL.

Union is regular but is not recognized by ANY State GL but is by ALL REGULAR PHA GLs.

I get the feeling that you are fairly new to the Craft(if I'm mistaken I'm sorry) and are very passionate about your Lodge, GL, and the Craft as a whole which is great keep that up, but also you should take a step back and realize that we aren't all from FL or PHA. Also I suggest you look in to recognition and regularity as laid out by the CONFERNECE OF GRAND MASTERS IN NORTH AMERICA (http://www.cgmna.com) and CONFERNECE OF GRAND MASTERS PHA ( https://www.conferenceofgrandmasterspha.org)

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Lmao now that’s funny a must use


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But that’s true, yours is not recognised by the UGLE.


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By the way, both Florida regular jurisdictions - Like everywhere else, it's time you voted in mutual recognition. This I say having no authority whatsoever in either jurisdiction. Same to the other states that don't yet have local mutual recognition. Pair by pair, all ya'll need to do the vote.

 

MBC why do you keep saying that ? We all know they arent recognized but I dont think in the sense you keep referring. PHA is regular and legitimate. The issue lies in the United States not England. Has nothing to do with lineage or not following landmarks etc...

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I can only wish...

 

It is regular and legitimate, but not recognized... which I sincerely wish we all could fix relatively soon!

 

PHA as a whole is recongized by the UGLE. The states that arent have to do with "exclusive territory". To keep saying my GL doesnt recognize yours is redundant. The same can be said for PH GLS that dont recongize the GL of England. Your right, I hope all is fixed soom also.

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Ok but my home is W.M.P.H.GL.of.Fl Labor System Lodge #324 F&AM PHA District 4 Zone 1 under the jurisdiction most worshipful Union Grand Lodge of Florida

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Bro Darrel the way you listed you lodge is in correct. It’s Labor System Lodge #324 Dist4 zone 1 Most Worshipful Union Grand Lodge of Florida(MWUGLoFL) F&AM, PHA.

It is not the MWPHAGLoFL. The MWPHGLoFL is clandestine and not regular. IF you were to go to say GA and attempt to visit the MWPHGLoGA and told them you hailed from the MWPHGLoFL you could possibly be turned away before they even saw ur Dues card.
Recognition is a huge deal on the PHA side of our PHAmily tree.


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Yes brother it is, or you would run into those masons that only need to hear PHA and be like come on in. It would go, im brother" XYZ hailing from the MWPHGL of Abiff. " You PHA right? Okay come in " ha ha. In all seriousness we all need to be aware who is recognized and who isnt

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Oh ok sorry for get it wrong my and thanks for the correct my brother that's why I had to go look and the by laws so that I could get right

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I was simply pointing out the fact that he claims he is not being recognised is a lie, but the truth is, they are not really recognised.

 

There is no such thing as a "PHA as a whole".
I wouldn't mind if they said they don't recognise me as a mason, because it can be a truth for them.

 

What do you mean there is no such thing as PHA as a whole?

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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/there-s-no-such-thing-person-as

 

Not going to play mediocre games. Thanks for your input but im done.

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I suggest this conversation is going no where.

 

I’ll give you a Pass as you are not from America....but PHA is regular and recognized thru out the States save for 7or 8 States. His being one of those. PHA must trace their lineage to African Lodge 459, his can. While you are a UGLE Mason and UGLE recognizes most but not all PHA GLs and his being 1 that is not I understand that you couldn’t sit in His lodge or He in Yours, but you could sit with him in the MWPHGLoNM and you’d never know he wasn’t a “recognized “ brother. You don’t gotta keep pointing out that UGLE doesn’t recognize his GL.

 

Are you using talk to text? I’m not quite sure I understand what your saying