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They say Lucifer was once perfect, but he was proud and wanted to be like God. This feels like propaganda from his enemies or those who didn't know him. I don't think he was perfect, and the dispute in heaven was that he suddenly wanted to BE God. The more you think, the more absurd it sounds. The issue was NEVER about Lucifer's pride. NO, this was a controversy, an issue that caused enough Chaos in Heaven to actually get Angels to lead a protest against the Almighty God. This had to be something DEEP.
First, there are two Lucifers. The Angel, and the human King of Babylon in Isaiah 14:12, in which the word Lucifer is properly Heylel = Mt Lel = Mt Zion. These two are often confused. The King of Babylon morning star is actually NOT Lucifer, it is Jesus. Nebuchadnezzar is the Earth Beast Behemoth (Job 40) driven mad, and made to eat glass like oxen. He is the King of Kings in Daniel 2:37, and Cristo Redentor is the golden statue that Christians bow down and worship when the Choral Music is playing. He is also 888. The Golden Statue encompasses Babylon, Persia, Greece, and then Rome, where Christianity began, and the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet. Evidence is abundent Christianity is Babylon and Jesus Christ is the shadow of King Nebuchadnezzar the False Prophet of Revelation.
LUCIFER the Angel is likely linked with Iblis in Islam, who is also the the Yziddi Melek Taus, and ties in with the Archangel Michael, or perhaps they were Twin Brothers.
This is my own theory, but I got a lot of info from https://childrenofagni.com/ An extremely high level site for connecting Mythologies with a lot of Freemasonry info as well.
Lucifer of the light, likely a member of the Jinn race of fire, would not bow to Adam.
But the Key to solving the whole mystery is the Lapsit Exillis, the Emerald Stone that Fell from heaven. Lucifers Emerald crown which he lost when he fell.
"Kyot the Provençal, claimed the Grail was a stone that fell from Heaven (called lapsit exillis), and had been the abode of the Neutral Angels who took neither side during Lucifer's rebellion. The stone was said to be green, but of no one specific material. In an obscure account by another author, Lucifer was said to have claimed the emerald and set it in a crown. The crown was destroyed when Lucifer fell to Earth from Heaven. Apparently, the stone had survived. It, being the source of Lucifer's power over Alchemy, was said to have split into two parts. At first, Lucifer pursued the two fragments of the emerald, but gave up. Then, human beings found them and made them into a tablet and another object which eventually became a cup."
The Stone was likely a space time cube, a dimension where the Neutrals Angels resided. So Lucifer is said to have fallen with one third of angels, but he fooled everyone and took a second third with him, that got lost during the fall. So here is how I think it went down, because the core issue about the war in heaven was the Sons of God and the Nephilim...
What actually moved Lucifer / Iblis to rebel was the newly created Adam: representing mankind in the material universe. While superior to mankind in many ways, the Jinn were also inferior to Us, in that they could not do things like, Order a pizza, get drunk in a bar, or have sex with a woman. Lucifer saw a world of fun full of potential and felt it was unfair that the angels could not experience this. Asking them to knell to Adam could've been a straw that broke the camels back.
So Lucifer demanded the right for the Angels to be able to experience Mortal Life, which led to the war in heaven, and the fall, in which the sons of God were able to come into form and take wives. Lucifer likely stole the Emerald, and used its power of Alchemy to attain some kind of physical form. Obviously, God and the angels were not able to stop Lucifer and his angels from incarnating in some physical manner, but I'm not sure how this could be accomplished. Perhaps they possessed the humans, and got in actual flesh through pregnancy.
Lucifer likely stole the Emerald, and the neutral angels along with it, who were on the fence and didn't participate in the war. This also means some of them were thrown into flesh against their will, which leads to Gnosticism and people that seriously want to demonize and escape the material world. The neutral angels would have likely become troublemakers if they were taken here against their will. Thus the Emerald Orb becomes evil, as portrayed in Heavy Metal. It's association with Thoth is another matter entirely that I shall leave alone for now.
Supposedly there was no Death in the Paradise, or one that would have been very slow. Even Stars die eventually. Isaiah 65 implies a period where people live for thousands of years, but not a complete end of death. Where the Bible mentions eternal or everlasting it is not in the technical sense, but just means a very long time. Notice also how, in these so called new heavens and new earth, the sinner will be old at age 100. This implies a period of normal lifespan reincarnations such as we have now, and debunks any notion of sin actually being done away with completely. Is it really new?
So in order to accomplish giving angels mortal lives, death needed to come into the world. Here is where we get into Jacobs Ladder, where angels are ascending and descending and mixing with the souls of humans. It is now possible for humans to serve terms as angels, and for angels to incarnate as human, thereby making everything fair. With only one third of the angels remaining in heaven, GOD was also short staffed, and may have decided to play a mostly inactive role on the Earth because of this. Let the humans and the angels sort it out on their own, or let them do whatever they want.
This is also presented in the Anime Luck & Logic, where the Spirit Lucifer comes to the world with Benevolence, but it turns out he wants to bring all these other spirits down with him and cause trouble. He is of course the enemy in that anime, but the effort is praiseworthy. We also see who some of Lucifers enemies arer, Quetzalcoatl for example.
Unfortunately, while Lucifer himself obviously had noble intentions, many of the other angels, especially the neutral angels who were dragged here against their will, became trouble makers along with their descendants the Nephilim. (Assuming they came from heaven, and not the destroyed Planet Tiamat in the asteroid belt which is a different theory of mine.) So Heaven's hands off approach wasn't cutting it. The world had become evil, and the flood may have already been appointed at the Fall of Adam. The Serpent on the Tree of Knowledge might be Vasuki the Serpent worn around the neck of Shiva the destroyer when he churns the cosmic ocean for 1000 years which results in the flood of Noah. Adam is said to have lived to be 930, so it was about 1000 years between the fall and the flood.
Now after many reincarnations, we approach the prospect of the return. This would be the doing of Jesus, the one who bears the sins of the world. Through Science and reason we can start to return to Paradise. Isaiah 24-27, we can overcome the Senessent genes and increase human lifespan. Jesus can get what he seeks, but Galatians 3:13 he is the curse, Galatians 4:14 The thorn of Satan in the Aposlte Paul, the Leviathan Job 41. Sure Judas betrays Jesus, but it is Jesus himself who insists on going to the cross despite Peter, trying to stop him. Judas was essentially a volunteer. Someone who was Loyal to Jesus against his better judgment.
In conclusion, Lucifers Rebellion was justified, and Jesus Christ, if he accomplishes his purpose, as the serpent on the cross, is cursed above all other creatures. What is the reason for his taking the sins of mankind, or how would he return to being holy after that? Make no mistake, if Jesus accomplishes his purpose, then he is condemned not glorified. Yet the theology must exist because the potential exists. The Apostle Paul thus becomes the Antichrist - replacement for Christ, and Son of Perditon, and indeed all the material pertaining to the antichrist describes False Apostle Paul, Ophiuchus the Serpent Holder. Paul is wrong. People won't all become immortal at the sound of the last trump. Paul caught you with GUILE, the 140,000 are without GUILE.
So lets' set the record Straight. Lucifer, fought for the right of Angels to experience morality, and this likely had something to do with bringing early death to mortal beings.
Knowing that this was what Lucifer stood for, I think we should all side with Lucifer and against Jesus. I know a lot more then I'm saying here, but we must be very careful with regards to Jesus and about saying that something is definitely true.
Of course I don't know for certain. This is just a theory, but given the sons of god wanting to experience flesh, and the Emerald as the abobe of neutral angels, it makes a lot of sense. This would have been a deep controversy powerful enough to cause a war in heaven, for sure.
First, there are two Lucifers. The Angel, and the human King of Babylon in Isaiah 14:12, in which the word Lucifer is properly Heylel = Mt Lel = Mt Zion. These two are often confused. The King of Babylon morning star is actually NOT Lucifer, it is Jesus. Nebuchadnezzar is the Earth Beast Behemoth (Job 40) driven mad, and made to eat glass like oxen. He is the King of Kings in Daniel 2:37, and Cristo Redentor is the golden statue that Christians bow down and worship when the Choral Music is playing. He is also 888. The Golden Statue encompasses Babylon, Persia, Greece, and then Rome, where Christianity began, and the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet. Evidence is abundent Christianity is Babylon and Jesus Christ is the shadow of King Nebuchadnezzar the False Prophet of Revelation.
LUCIFER the Angel is likely linked with Iblis in Islam, who is also the the Yziddi Melek Taus, and ties in with the Archangel Michael, or perhaps they were Twin Brothers.
This is my own theory, but I got a lot of info from https://childrenofagni.com/ An extremely high level site for connecting Mythologies with a lot of Freemasonry info as well.
Lucifer of the light, likely a member of the Jinn race of fire, would not bow to Adam.
But the Key to solving the whole mystery is the Lapsit Exillis, the Emerald Stone that Fell from heaven. Lucifers Emerald crown which he lost when he fell.
"Kyot the Provençal, claimed the Grail was a stone that fell from Heaven (called lapsit exillis), and had been the abode of the Neutral Angels who took neither side during Lucifer's rebellion. The stone was said to be green, but of no one specific material. In an obscure account by another author, Lucifer was said to have claimed the emerald and set it in a crown. The crown was destroyed when Lucifer fell to Earth from Heaven. Apparently, the stone had survived. It, being the source of Lucifer's power over Alchemy, was said to have split into two parts. At first, Lucifer pursued the two fragments of the emerald, but gave up. Then, human beings found them and made them into a tablet and another object which eventually became a cup."
The Stone was likely a space time cube, a dimension where the Neutrals Angels resided. So Lucifer is said to have fallen with one third of angels, but he fooled everyone and took a second third with him, that got lost during the fall. So here is how I think it went down, because the core issue about the war in heaven was the Sons of God and the Nephilim...
What actually moved Lucifer / Iblis to rebel was the newly created Adam: representing mankind in the material universe. While superior to mankind in many ways, the Jinn were also inferior to Us, in that they could not do things like, Order a pizza, get drunk in a bar, or have sex with a woman. Lucifer saw a world of fun full of potential and felt it was unfair that the angels could not experience this. Asking them to knell to Adam could've been a straw that broke the camels back.
So Lucifer demanded the right for the Angels to be able to experience Mortal Life, which led to the war in heaven, and the fall, in which the sons of God were able to come into form and take wives. Lucifer likely stole the Emerald, and used its power of Alchemy to attain some kind of physical form. Obviously, God and the angels were not able to stop Lucifer and his angels from incarnating in some physical manner, but I'm not sure how this could be accomplished. Perhaps they possessed the humans, and got in actual flesh through pregnancy.
Lucifer likely stole the Emerald, and the neutral angels along with it, who were on the fence and didn't participate in the war. This also means some of them were thrown into flesh against their will, which leads to Gnosticism and people that seriously want to demonize and escape the material world. The neutral angels would have likely become troublemakers if they were taken here against their will. Thus the Emerald Orb becomes evil, as portrayed in Heavy Metal. It's association with Thoth is another matter entirely that I shall leave alone for now.
Supposedly there was no Death in the Paradise, or one that would have been very slow. Even Stars die eventually. Isaiah 65 implies a period where people live for thousands of years, but not a complete end of death. Where the Bible mentions eternal or everlasting it is not in the technical sense, but just means a very long time. Notice also how, in these so called new heavens and new earth, the sinner will be old at age 100. This implies a period of normal lifespan reincarnations such as we have now, and debunks any notion of sin actually being done away with completely. Is it really new?
So in order to accomplish giving angels mortal lives, death needed to come into the world. Here is where we get into Jacobs Ladder, where angels are ascending and descending and mixing with the souls of humans. It is now possible for humans to serve terms as angels, and for angels to incarnate as human, thereby making everything fair. With only one third of the angels remaining in heaven, GOD was also short staffed, and may have decided to play a mostly inactive role on the Earth because of this. Let the humans and the angels sort it out on their own, or let them do whatever they want.
This is also presented in the Anime Luck & Logic, where the Spirit Lucifer comes to the world with Benevolence, but it turns out he wants to bring all these other spirits down with him and cause trouble. He is of course the enemy in that anime, but the effort is praiseworthy. We also see who some of Lucifers enemies arer, Quetzalcoatl for example.
Unfortunately, while Lucifer himself obviously had noble intentions, many of the other angels, especially the neutral angels who were dragged here against their will, became trouble makers along with their descendants the Nephilim. (Assuming they came from heaven, and not the destroyed Planet Tiamat in the asteroid belt which is a different theory of mine.) So Heaven's hands off approach wasn't cutting it. The world had become evil, and the flood may have already been appointed at the Fall of Adam. The Serpent on the Tree of Knowledge might be Vasuki the Serpent worn around the neck of Shiva the destroyer when he churns the cosmic ocean for 1000 years which results in the flood of Noah. Adam is said to have lived to be 930, so it was about 1000 years between the fall and the flood.
Now after many reincarnations, we approach the prospect of the return. This would be the doing of Jesus, the one who bears the sins of the world. Through Science and reason we can start to return to Paradise. Isaiah 24-27, we can overcome the Senessent genes and increase human lifespan. Jesus can get what he seeks, but Galatians 3:13 he is the curse, Galatians 4:14 The thorn of Satan in the Aposlte Paul, the Leviathan Job 41. Sure Judas betrays Jesus, but it is Jesus himself who insists on going to the cross despite Peter, trying to stop him. Judas was essentially a volunteer. Someone who was Loyal to Jesus against his better judgment.
In conclusion, Lucifers Rebellion was justified, and Jesus Christ, if he accomplishes his purpose, as the serpent on the cross, is cursed above all other creatures. What is the reason for his taking the sins of mankind, or how would he return to being holy after that? Make no mistake, if Jesus accomplishes his purpose, then he is condemned not glorified. Yet the theology must exist because the potential exists. The Apostle Paul thus becomes the Antichrist - replacement for Christ, and Son of Perditon, and indeed all the material pertaining to the antichrist describes False Apostle Paul, Ophiuchus the Serpent Holder. Paul is wrong. People won't all become immortal at the sound of the last trump. Paul caught you with GUILE, the 140,000 are without GUILE.
So lets' set the record Straight. Lucifer, fought for the right of Angels to experience morality, and this likely had something to do with bringing early death to mortal beings.
Knowing that this was what Lucifer stood for, I think we should all side with Lucifer and against Jesus. I know a lot more then I'm saying here, but we must be very careful with regards to Jesus and about saying that something is definitely true.
Of course I don't know for certain. This is just a theory, but given the sons of god wanting to experience flesh, and the Emerald as the abobe of neutral angels, it makes a lot of sense. This would have been a deep controversy powerful enough to cause a war in heaven, for sure.
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