Military and ADHD

Discussion in 'Freemasons in the Military' started by JMartinez, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. JMartinez

    JMartinez Registered User

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    Are there officers that didn't start as enlisted?
     
  2. Morris

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    Most officers are not prior enlisted.
     
  3. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    As Bro Morris stated most officers are not.prior enlisted. Off all the officers that I have directly served under in 11 yrs about 6 were prior enlisted of those 5 were THE best officers I have EVER met. The other one was still better then.most he was just a douch.

    My brother is a Maj (lt cdr for u seamen) and he wishes my parents had allowed him to enlist. Think about it like this you'll be approx 25 yrs old and in charge of anywhere form 3 to 300 sailors right out of.college, many of those will have.more.time.in the Navy then you have on this planet. Do u think they will really respect you right away?

    I had a LT (ensign/lt jg) that came in trying to act like she knew what she was doing and stuff, ever single member of our platoon had more time in combat then she had in the Army....

    As i write this I realized that i guess it doesnt really matter about that kind.if.stuff.in the navy cause the only people who matter in the navy is e7 and up for enlisted. And o4 and up for Officers. Also regular seaman won't ever see combat or anything where trust and respect matters. From what I've experienced with my time working with the navy and the other branches is the Navy ids still stuck in the past as far as officers being a different class and there for infallible .'.....good luck brother
     
  4. JMartinez

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    Thanks brothers the more info the better
     
  5. dfreybur

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    There are age limitations on taking a new commission. There are promotion considerations that include how long you might be able to stay in the service. Put together, being enlisted first makes it much less likely to reach flag ranks later in your career. I suggest that you go straight to commission and take the advice above as perspective on how experience works on the shop floor. Respect is always earned and mostly by giving it.
     
  6. Ripcord22A

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    Once enlisted there are no age restrictions on commissions, at least in the army. And as far as reaching Flag ranks its something like less then 1% that reach that anyways. And he wants to go supply/ logistics that makes the chance of getting that high even lower.
     
  7. dfreybur

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    When I was enlisted, lo these many years ago, a sailor had to complete the requirements by age 30 to be considered for an unrestricted line commission. After that the choices were Warrant Officer of stay in the enlisted ranks going for E-9.

    Masonic consideration - We are taught to drop superfluities out of our lives. Do the necessary but not the unnecessary. There is no necessity to be enlisted before taking a commission. It behooves us to recommend the most efficient path to success. Within the military success is largely but not exclusively recognized with rank, therefore starting at the highest rank available is the most efficient path. Starting enlisted is unnecessary and about something not on the direct path to success.

    So we should make recommendations that push that percentage as low as possible? I think not. Set those goals high!

    On the other hand the competition for rank is lower within the supply corps. Promote where the competition is lowest as a restricted duty officer, then transfer to unrestricted line officer to be able to continue advancing the highest. This is an optimization problem - Analyze the numbers. Advance within the supply corps while the numbers say the advancement is faster then start applying for unrestricted line officer status when the numbers say the advancement is farther.
     

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