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Name of the chair missing

JanneProeliator

Registered User
I have a problem.
Wel... it's not quite a problem but something I have wondered for some time.
I'm moving to a next chair in my blue lodge next year to an office I don't know the english name of.

I'm now junior steward. I'm jumping over senior steward to a position what in Finnish is called an (junior) escort. I don't know if that is the name of the chair in english or if it is an office that is not existing in American/English Freemasonry. That would be highly weird because the rite used in Finland is translated from rite used in New York.

"The Escorts" sit in the wet with the senior warden and are between stewards and deacons in hierarchy. Other officers are ofcouse WM, Wardens, Guards, Deacons, Marchal, etc...
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
With one possible exception (Pennsylvania) American Lodges generally have no one between the Stewards and the Deacons.
 

Winter

Premium Member
In my home jurisdiction, the officer chairs seated directly below the SW in the W are the JD to the right and the Counselor to the left. Though I cannot quite recall the Counselor's place in the hierarchy of the Lodge. I did a quick search and was unable to find anything on an officer position between the Stewards and Deacons in other rites that sounds like the chair you describe so I am not quite sure of what their duties are to compare it to a position in my Lodge. The background for our Counselor position is detailed below. Does that sound like your Junior Escort?

From the GLofW Counselor's Handbook:
More than 400 years ago, the “Intender” was an important official in the operative Lodges in Scotland. He was entrusted with the instruction of new Candidates. At that time the word “intend” had a different meaning than it does now. It meant, “to stretch out, extend, expand, increase and intensify.”

The Intender was a faithful companion and teacher whose duty it was to stretch out, extend, expand, increase and intensify the know ledge and understanding of the younger craftsman in Masonry. In retaining this function under the title Counselor, Freemasonry maintains and continues its ties to the ancient craft. The Mason today who acts as Counselor should feel the pride and responsibility, which the position denotes.

To the Candidate, the Counselor will be Freemasonry personified. While the Counselor will become knowledgeable in Freemasonry, it is most important that he be a friendly person, patient and of exemplary character. He will give his individual and personal attention to the Candidate.
Masonically, “the attentive ear receives the sound from the instructive tongue.” “Through a succession of ages are transmitted, unimpaired, the excellent tenets of our Institution.”
 

Bill Lins

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Under GLoTX, we have one MC, who sits to the north of the SW. We also have a Marshal, who sits in front of the Secretary. Both outrank the Stewards & are outranked by the Deacons.
 

JanneProeliator

Registered User
Most likley this, the GL of Finland got their rituals etc. from NY.
Likely a Master of Ceremonies position. In NY there are two MCs seated on both sides and slightly in front of the SW.
This could be it. Like bro Elexir said we got our ritual from New York.

And now that I put the good old google in good use I found out that it in deed is the master of ceremony. :)
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
In my jurisdiction there are no Escorts. The only thing we have comparable is Marshall. Here the next position after Senior Steward is Junior Deacon.
 

CLewey44

Registered User
MCs are new to me actually. Also, NY will ent, pss and rs more than one candidate/brother at a time. Oklahoma was one at a time only and no MCs. JS/SS escorted them around and SD did most of the talking.
 

JanneProeliator

Registered User
In my jurisdiction there are no Escorts. The only thing we have comparable is Marshall. Here the next position after Senior Steward is Junior Deacon.
The position (escort) is apparently called Master of Ceremony.

MCs are new to me actually. Also, NY will ent, pss and rs more than one candidate/brother at a time. Oklahoma was one at a time only and no MCs. JS/SS escorted them around and SD did most of the talking.
In our lodge we have bunch of ppl walking with the candidat

SD/M
MC/MC
C/His personal assistant (There is propably a name for this in english too but I don't know it)
SS/JS
 

CLewey44

Registered User
The position (escort) is apparently called Master of Ceremony.


In our lodge we have bunch of ppl walking with the candidat

SD/M
MC/MC
C/His personal assistant (There is propably a name for this in english too but I don't know it)
SS/JS
I've been to one initiation here and there was quite the gaggle of masons doing their thing. I can't remember how many and who was with them. Seems the Stws only help the JW with meals and things like that.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
In both NM and CA the SD, with assistance from the Stewards, guides the Candidate. The only time we have an “MC” is at Agape (our formal festive board after lodge).
 

CLewey44

Registered User
In both NM and CA the SD, with assistance from the Stewards, guides the Candidate. The only time we have an “MC” is at Agape (our formal festive board after lodge).
Speaking of, someone on here was asking about the Agape 'ritual' or guidelines. Can't remember who though.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
Under GLoTX, we have one MC, who sits to the north of the SW. We also have a Marshal, who sits in front of the Secretary. Both outrank the Stewards & are outranked by the Deacons.
Interesting thread. Here, we have no office between Steward and Junior Deacon - but do have a "Senior Steward' but he simply organizes the Stewards and these do not have a ritual role, they are responsible for assisting with dinner (and standing in as Deacon if they are absent). Our "Director of Ceremonies" outranks the Deacons -but is below the Assit. Sec, and the Wardens well above, the Wardens being only below the WM and IPM (which I have only just realised)... but the reality is, the Sec, WM and everyone else often defer to the DC or Sec as he is often an experienced - the choice will often be the nature of the issue (ceremonial or procedural) - but at the end of the day, the WM is the boss..
 

Scoops

Registered User
everyone else often defer to the DC or Sec as he is often an experienced - the choice will often be the nature of the issue (ceremonial or procedural)

The way I see it in our lodge, the Sec decides what we're going to do whilst the DC decides how we do it!

*comment meant tongue in cheek

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LK600

Premium Member
With one possible exception (Pennsylvania) American Lodges generally have no one between the Stewards and the Deacons.

Agreed, here its JS ---> SS ---> JD ---> SD ---> JW... etc.

In my home jurisdiction, the officer chairs seated directly below the SW in the W are the JD to the right and the Counselor to the left.

Here, from the SW's view, to the right is the JD and (if filled) to the left is the Marshal.
 
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