National Supreme Council A.A.S.R.

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  1. Shahkem

    Shahkem Registered User

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    Greetings Brethren. I was initiated, passed and raised in a Masonic organization known as the National Supreme Council of A.A.S.R headquartered in Detroit. I was initially petitioning for PHA membership, but it seemed like they were dragging their feet. So I came across some Scottish Rite Brothers that were younger and had a much more voracious appetite than the PHA Brethren so I asked the WM. of the Scottish Rite Lodge to show me their charter to work sand he did, so I thought they were regular.

    This Organization doesn't have a Grand Lodge, they claim affiliation with the Supreme Council from France through a brother named Baron Auguste hugo debulow. But after some studying I start to question the legit nature of this organization. I'm seriously considering going over to PHA. Does anybody here known anything about this organization. Is it considered irregular or clandestine

    Thank you in advance!








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  2. crono782

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    Yes it is both irregular and clandestine unfortunately.


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  3. widows son

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    ^^^ yup.
     
  4. Shahkem

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    Thank you for your responses. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around all of this irregular/clandestine business. What makes this body irregular? Is it because they have no connection with the UGLE? I ask that because, when I asked the WM about their charter, he told me that their charter is from a Supreme Council and that France had Supreme Councils not Grand Lodges.


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  5. Jericho2013

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    I'm assuming the PHA is the same in that you cannot join the Scottish Rite until you have been raised a master mason in a regular lodge chartered by the grand lodge in your state. Best of luck to you!
     
  6. phamason

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    Bro Shahkem I was apart of that organization at one time PM me and I can tell u all about them but bro Crono is correct they are clandestine

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  7. JAB

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    I just returned my petition along with the 116$ fee this past week to a lodge under the NSC :52:
     
  8. rnelson357

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    You should request a refund. Do not take part in that scam. The only body in America that is considered legitimate that uses the title Scottish Rite that is not the AASR nj sj or PHA is the supreme council of Louisiana.


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  9. JAB

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    That's what I'm going to try to do tomorrow. I'm glad I seen this thread before they called me to be initiated. That would've been another 116$ gone to waste >.< So glad i found this thread when I did.
     
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  10. JTM

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    Thank you for helping him. Please follow up to help him knock on the correct door :)
     
  11. mm357

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    Theyre trying to get me to come to them but I been investigating and things don't seem right it's always coming up bogus I messed up and payed them $150 so how can I get my refund
     
  12. Mel Knight

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    In no order I would contact either prince hall or go to the Grand Lodge of Michigan website and select a lodge.
     
  13. dfreybur

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    Legit lodges will return your check or issue a refund on your request. As they aren't legit I have no idea if they will do that on your request. Is it worth small claims court?
     
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  14. acjohnson53

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    I highly agree...
     
  15. mm357

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    Thanks
     
  16. mrpierce17

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    Louisiana is no longer recognized by the MWUGLofFL as of our 146th annual grand communication it was announced by our Most Worshipful Grand Master the weekend before last
     
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  17. dfreybur

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    Is that GLofLA (which has had some red lodges since the time they organized), MWPHGLofLA or some other jurisdiction in Louisiana that isn't on the two lists of regular jurisdictions?

    If the story is public please post a summary or link to discussion of why the decision was made.
     
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