Regarding PHA members

[MRichard]

Yes I do like to comment on stuff that's two years he might come back and ask the same question....

Can't argue with that logic. Sure can't.

 

[BullDozer Harrell]

Is there a version of this for each jurisdiction?

As long as one can start at the UGLE list and move from there it's going to be accurate enough in the case of very many jurisdictions one version can work for all of them. The book I saw in GLofTX sure looked identical to the one I've seen in my other jurisdictions plus ones I've visited when they decided to use it.

I take it all 51 PHA jurisdictions recognize each other so there would be a need for a PHA version that tracks who recognizes who outside of the PHA family.

That suggests to me there needs to be two general versions but I wonder about the accuracy rate. I remember Illinois voting to retain recognition for France against the advice from the Conference of Grand Masters committee. When I checked California details I found two PHA jurisdictions missing, but I also saw a list of PHA jurisdictions that had not answered the invitation yet. To get good accuracy there would need to be a lot of versions and I wonder at the price/benefit ratio of printing so many slightly different versions.

There isn't 51 PHA jurisdictions.

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[dfreybur]

There isn't 51 PHA jurisdictions

Current world wide count is 49 if I counted them right -
http://www.conferenceofgrandmasterspha.org/gjlinks.asp

 

[TonyStarks357]

Crazy how I'm reading these questions and replies...I was raised, PHA in Texas in 1994. Walking the tyler's sword existed then, and even though I'm in Colorado, it exists now. It's funny how a lot of the "older" brothers say they've never heard of it; or your birth certificate.

 

[acjohnson53]

It's funny how walking the Tylers Sword is mentioned, that is the old school way to ward off cowans and eavesdroppers....

 

[Bro. Stewart P.M.]

Crazy how I'm reading these questions and replies...I was raised, PHA in Texas in 1994. Walking the tyler's sword existed then, and even though I'm in Colorado, it exists now. It's funny how a lot of the "older" brothers say they've never heard of it; or your birth certificate.

It's funny how walking the Tylers Sword is mentioned, that is the old school way to ward off cowans and eavesdroppers....

Okay. You both have my curiosity as well as interest. These things, or challenges/trials... This is stuff that I have only heard about. I'm quite certain that I'd be embarrassed if I attempted. Or am I mis-reading again?

 

[Bloke]

Okay. You both have my curiosity as well as interest. These things, or challenges/trials... This is stuff that I have only heard about. I'm quite certain that I'd be embarrassed if I attempted. Or am I mis-reading again?

You either know how to walk a sword or you don't. It's a specific examination from what I read and have been told.

 

[acjohnson53]

Brother's get back into that ritual, it speaks on walking the Tylers Sword.....It's a tool to ward of cowans and evesdroppers.....

 

[Glen Cook]

Brother's get back into that ritual, it speaks on walking the Tylers Sword.....It's a tool to ward of cowans and evesdroppers.....

Not in my rituals.

 

[Ripcord22A]

Not in my rituals.

Mine either

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[Bill Lins]

Nor ours. I think it is strictly a PHA thing.

 

[tldubb]

It's not a part of our jurisdiction, so I would not say it's a "PHA" thing specifically. My jurisdiction is the second oldest formerly African Lodge #459b Philadelphia,PA., I just mentioned it to one of my PM he says maybe it's a part of pha southern jurisdictions who practice it.


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[Bro. Stewart P.M.]

It's not a part of our jurisdiction, so I would not say it's a "PHA" thing specifically. My jurisdiction is the second oldest formerly African Lodge #459b Philadelphia,PA., I just mentioned it to one of my PM he says maybe it's a part of pha southern jurisdictions who practice it.


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Interesting.

I'm curious to learn more.

 

[bupton52]

It's not a part of our jurisdiction, so I would not say it's a "PHA" thing specifically. My jurisdiction is the second oldest formerly African Lodge #459b Philadelphia,PA., I just mentioned it to one of my PM he says maybe it's a part of pha southern jurisdictions who practice it.


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I have heard of it, but have never seen it administered. It sounds to be something comparable to the Tyler's Oath.


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[Keith C]

It's not a part of our jurisdiction, so I would not say it's a "PHA" thing specifically. My jurisdiction is the second oldest formerly African Lodge #459b Philadelphia,PA., I just mentioned it to one of my PM he says maybe it's a part of pha southern jurisdictions who practice it.
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I think no matter if it's GL of PA or MWPHGL of PA, everything is unique in Pennsylvania!

 

[tldubb]

I think no matter if it's GL of PA or MWPHGL of PA, everything is unique in Pennsylvania!

True my Brother!


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[BullDozer Harrell]

Nor ours. I think it is strictly a PHA thing.

Bill, if i might address you sort of personal, can I remind you that there's no entity anymore like the National Grand Lodge of Colored Masons. The beast died in the same century it was given life (19th century).

Today there are only seperate & independent Prince Hall Grand Lodges in their respective jurisdictions and territories. I say jurisdictions rather than saying States because there's like 4 or 5 not mainland U.S.A.

But anyways, it's never polite to say that a custom or practice or whatever is "strictly a PHA thing". Surely you meant no harm. No harm and no foul, sir.

Just be mindful that there's no central PH authority. We're as independent of one another as State GLs are from each other.

Thanks

 

[BullDozer Harrell]

It's not a part of our jurisdiction, so I would not say it's a "PHA" thing specifically. My jurisdiction is the second oldest formerly African Lodge #459b Philadelphia,PA., I just mentioned it to one of my PM he says maybe it's a part of pha southern jurisdictions who practice it.


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There's some interesting history about your jurisdiction. You're proud to be a member of what was known back in the early days as First Independent African Grand Lodge of PA. As you should be.

Absalom Jones is right in the history book with Prince Hall. Though they probably never met.

Events happened in your jurisdiction that spawned the formation of an organization that's still controversial in 2017. The National Grand Lodge, or Compact of Colored York Masons.

Are you familiar with this aspect of history in black Pennsylvanian Masonry?

 

[MRichard]

Is this practice (walking the sword) actually in the ritual of any PHA jurisdiction?

 

[bupton52]

Bill, if i might address you sort of personal, can I remind you that there's no entity anymore like the National Grand Lodge of Colored Masons. The beast died in the same century it was given life (19th century).

Today there are only seperate & independent Prince Hall Grand Lodges in their respective jurisdictions and territories. I say jurisdictions rather than saying States because there's like 4 or 5 not mainland U.S.A.

But anyways, it's never polite to say that a custom or practice or whatever is "strictly a PHA thing". Surely you meant no harm. No harm and no foul, sir.

Just be mindful that there's no central PH authority. We're as independent of one another as State GLs are from each other.

Thanks

Isn't healing generally a PHGL thing? At least it has been in the past. The often overzealous challenging that happens to other masons is generally a PH mason thing. Unfortunately, there are some other 'things' that definitely would fall under being associated with PHA Masons. Being around Bro. Bill over the years, I knew exactly what he meant.


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