The Science of Fear

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  1. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    It is my opinion that we live in a time where there is a lot of fear. I sometimes offer this explanation when people are discussing current events. Recently I was at a friends home and I mentioned my opinion that we live in fearful times as a possible explanation for why large numbers of people are engaging in certain behaviors. (is that vague enough for you?) :) My friend picked up a book and handed it to me. The book was "The Science of Fear" by Daniel Gardner. The book certainly offers an interesting perspective on the nature fear. I have never read anything quite like it. It may be a worthwhile read to anyone interested in human behavior.
     
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  2. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    I've not read it, but fear is one of the great evils - it's up there with greed and hate...
     
  3. Classical

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    I don't know Bloke, my kids sure have benefitted from fear a few times in their upbringing!
     
  4. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    LOL
     
  5. jOelski

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    I think fear can be helpful if it initiates the right response.


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  6. JamestheJust

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    Fear that drives a reasonable degree of self-preservation is valuable - hold on tightly to the ladder.

    Fear of social groups such as immigrants is not so useful.

    Apparently some people feed emotionally off the fear of others. I suppose they would encourage fear.
     
  7. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    I cannot agree with you on this one Bro. Bloke.

    Fear is an indicator emotion. It tells the person experiencing it that they perceive danger. Without it, the dangers perceived would not have any compelling force to take action to minimize, reduce or eliminate potentially harmful situation. Unlike anxiety, which tells people experiencing it that change is anticipated often with uneasiness and apprehension about future uncertainties, fear tells us that we are compelled to be aware of already existing situations that are either harmful or potentially harmful. The two are often experienced together and can feed each other into an uncontrollable frenzy.

    I cannot agree that the emotion fear is evil. However, the absolutely insane, irrational and unthinking responses that I see to perceived dangers can be.
     
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  8. Bloke

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    Well, that's a change Bro Nagy :)

    Fear is not an indicator of emotion, fear *is* an emotion. Emotions are not evil or good... they just are.

    So yes, *sigh*, you're right, fear is not evil, unless an emotion can be evil... but it if you let fear drive and control and you it's possible evil will result...

    As you say, it's about perception....but perceptions can be flawed and bias and distorted by both internal and external factors.. especially by the uneducated and unaware.

    Agreed.

    Is bravery an emotion or decision ?

    The antidote to fear is often education/rationalization.. if bravery is the antonym to fear (an emotion) does that make bravery an emotion... or is it a thought... what are your thoughts?

    One thing is for sure, a lot more evil is overcome by bravery than fear... or am I being idealist ?
     
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  9. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    Aren't you glad I mix it up and say the unexpected?
    I don't believe I said it was an indication of emotion. I believe I said it was an "indicator emotion". There is a huge difference and I am glad that you agree that it is an emotion.
    Spot on! We are in agreement... here ;-)
    There's the rub. Far too many people focus on the feeling and not what the emotion is telling them.
    Can be?!?!?! Perception is ALWAYS flawed, bias and distorted. The key is knowing this and making your best judgment of it knowing full well that your perception is skewed in some way.
    Bravery is courageous behavior or character. Being brave is a state of being. Bravery could be based upon a decision or choice. It is not an emotion. Being willing to face danger requires courage and that is based upon love.
    There are no antidotes for any emotion. Emotions exist due to perceptions. If you want to change an emotion, you have to change the perception and the focus. If you focus in not so much upon the danger than it is upon safeguarding self or others from the danger, a loving act, then the perception shifts from the danger to summoning up courageous actions.
    See above comments ;-)
    Yes, you are an idealist AND you are spot on with your overcoming comment.
     
  10. Warrior1256

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    Very interesting conversation. Differing points of view. Good points made by all.
     
  11. Ripcord22A

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    Do u lock ur car when u park it at a store? Lock ur house doors at night or when u leave?
    Thats not cause ur "afraid" its cause you k ow there are some bad people out there.
    Same thing with immigrants/refugees. They are coming from areas with high ratios of very very bad people. There is nothing wrong with vetting each and everyone of them as thoroughly as we can, and if there are even any yellow flags we turn em around and send em back.

    If i offered u a bowl of ur favorite candy,lets say M&Ms for sake of this example, but told u ten of them would kill u if u so much as touched them....would u just grab a big ol handful amd eat up? Or would u turn the lot down and opt for something else?


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  12. Warrior1256

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    Gotta agree. There is a big difference in prudent caution and unreasonable fear.
     
  13. coachn

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    Yes
    Yes.
    No. I do it because I fear what bad people will do to my property should they have access to it because I didn't secure it so that they couldn't access it without breaking in. I am afraid of what I imagine they might do due to my not properly securing my property.
     
  14. Bloke

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    We need more people to decide to be brave rather than being driven by emotion...

    And Rip, the problem is we're not talking about M&Ms but people. Not saying that means you owe them putting your own family or neighbours at risk, but leaving the distressed to their fate feels wrong if we can do something....
     
  15. JamestheJust

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    Brotherhood of man under the fatherhood of God?
     
  16. Ripcord22A

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    Im all about helping people, as long as they are worthy...as terrorists and their supporters are not worthy. Im not willing to put my family and countrymen at risk to help people who wont help themselves. Ive been there where they are coming from...its not pretty.

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  17. Warrior1256

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    With you.
     
  18. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    Or, to be completely honest, it serves the purpose of redirecting the dishonest towards easier prey.
     
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    Indeed, a lock only keeps an honest person honest. Thieves tend to go for the easiest target.
     
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