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Bloke

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Well it's close enough. If you saw it, it shouldn't look foreign. I'm sure there is a brother that has researched this topic

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No researched it, but proven people from several countries and 5 continents (Europe, Nth America, Sth America, Asia and Australia). Brazil was probably the most different. Let's just say he was declined entry and I had to work through the Grand Secs office...
 

BullDozer Harrell

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We know its not. For instance the third degree dis not exist on yhe 16th century, if there was something akin to speculative masonry, it was more likely about Noah ( can't think of the supporting doc. That weakens my point - sure someone will help) tha HA, a character from the yet to be incorporated 3rd degree..
The Graham manuscript contains something about the Noah legend.

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BullDozer Harrell

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Do you brothers think signs, ob. Etc are the same ?
From what period to now? If you're speaking from the early days of Anglo Freemasonry since the Grand organization in the 18th century, then i would guess that the signs, passes, grips and probably the OBs are still close enough to the originals.

Personally i can't see too much that would have been changed even after the Morgan affair and numerous exposes before& after that great Masonic episode.



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