Visitation between A.F.&A.M and F&A.M

Discussion in 'Freemasonry In Texas' started by Jorge Rojas Jr, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. Glen Cook

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    I don't have that in my obligation and, if I did, I don't see what it has to do with not recognizing some jurisdictions
     
  2. EQNUPE

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    In the interest of being cautious, I would advise you to refer to the first stanzas of your 1st and 2nd. "Regularly Constituted" speaks for itself, so save the linguistic straining please.
     
  3. Glen Cook

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    Still don't know what you're speaking of. Remember, not all obligations are the same. Perhaps you could refer me to the page of Duncan's which has the phrase you are thinking of.

    However, the phrase you mention is appropriate in the discussion, as that is the point: a determination as been made that another GL is not regularly constituted. That IS in the obligations which most of us share: we do not have masonic intercourse with those who are members of grand lodges/lodges determined not to be regularly constituted.
     
  4. dfreybur

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    If you move state to state or country to country and your jurisdiction is recognized by the UGLE, there's a presumption that your jurisdiction is valid. Most jurisdictions mostly copy the list from UGLE so recognition might already be in place but even if it isn't you're known to not be clandestine. You should be able to transfer membership.

    For jurisdictions that only allow single affiliations this might be reasonable. Being a member in 4 lodges in 3 jurisdictions at the moment I figure single affiliation rules are from an era that predates planes, trains and automobiles, but your jurisdiction your rules.

    As with so many on the board I live in a city area with lodges in both jurisdictions. When I first moved into the state (Texas in my case) I visited both until I ran out the maximum time and affiliated with one. I don't have to understand I just have to follow the rules. And work within the rules to get them changed.
     
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  5. Mindovermatter Ace

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    I can tell you for a fact that there are only one or two PHA Lodges and or GLs that are AF&AMs. If you run across any more than that, it's more than likely bogus.
     
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  6. bupton52

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  7. Mindovermatter Ace

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    Well I stand corrected, however to my knowledge there is only one the USA
     
  8. tldubb

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  9. Mindovermatter Ace

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    Can you tell me when did they receive their charter, and from what governing lodge or GL?
     
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  11. Bill Lins

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    That is why we in Texas, both PHA and GLoTX, have worked so hard in the past few years to get the privileges of Masonry approved. Without them, recognition just didn't mean much.
     
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