Women Freemasons

Discussion in 'The Voting Booth' started by Blake Bowden, Sep 7, 2008.

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Should women be allowed to become Freemasons?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Doesn't matter either way

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    6.2%
  1. Brother JC

    Brother JC Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    I should find out soon enough, the Secretary is putting the paperwork into the snail-mail today.

    And reading over the Emulation Ritual, they use chastity. NM is a bit more blunt. :eek:hmy:
     
  2. scw538

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    If I remember correctly "We make good men better men" .......nothing should be twisted they have o.e.s. ....


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  3. MajaOES

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    Female perspective: As a researcher I want that knowledge. I spend a lot of time assisting the Lodge with fundraising and even sharing knowledge about the history of freemasonry. I dedicated my academic PhD career studying freemasonry and the affiliated bodies. The research will always be incomplete without having the basic understanding and full knowledge of the ritual of the Lodge. However, it is the one place I am not allowed to enter and partake in. I would be ok with that, if I could actually be part of the Lodge of Research. I fail to see why women can not belong to the Lodge of Research. The Lodge of Research is not able to publish anything that anyone is not allowed to see. Therefore, my opinion is why should the Lodge of Research be dedicated to men only? Shouldn't the Lodge of Research to exploring the other facets of masonry? All affiliated bodies of Masonry were written by Master Masons or female relatives of Master Masons. I accept the fact as a women I will not be allowed to share in the mysteries of freemasonry beyond what is already published and general knowledge. But to promote understanding and advancement in our knowledge to seek the truth, would it not be more beneficial to research more than just masonry but what the other bodies teach as well? Just a thought.
     
  4. scw538

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    MajaOES I do very much respect your want for more light. I think it is very cool that you are writing your dissertation on masonry and other affiliations. I do feel that behind most good masons stand a equally good woman. You in yourself are discovering light through your research. With that being said I return to " Masonry makes good men, better men"


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  5. BroBook

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    After all these years I just. Realized that in Oder for there to be an injunction against it it must have already been done


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  6. BroBook

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    Hello dear sister if you go seek his star visit the queen and find the flower you have more light than the "average" mason although I need healing I have truly been enlightened through those bodies my wife went first and I followed !!!!!


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  7. BroBook

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    Just wondering!!!

    Questions : if Adam was one did it occur before or after Eve was taking out ? Second any ideas on how long exclusion of females madmen and such has been part of the oath!!


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  8. scw538

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    Yes Adam was one and Eve was formed after. As Americans and society as whole we have changed every walk of our life to keep from excluding or offending any gender,race or religion. But there are certain things I do not believe in and breaking an oath or promise is defiantly not what I will do. Do you think it would be fine for straight college male to join and live in a sorority house. Yes I hate to even compare our fraternity to a college social club but think about it.


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  9. BroBook

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    No sir be at nor give my consent but its like saying women cannot be preachers
    When they already are


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  10. scw538

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    Bro book surely you do not recognize any woman that claims to be Freemason. I do not and never will. I also believe any lodge that does is clandestine.


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  11. BroBook

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    No sir never met one would not !!!


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  12. dfreybur

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    As an OES sister you can join the OES chapter of research. If our state does not have one yet you can work to get one chartered and/or you can join one in another state. Your point that research lodges should consider female members is an interesting one. The annual meeting of LofR is tiled in the two jurisdictions I've attended so far. That's why female members are not admitted. That is of course circular reasoning and thus a weak reason.

    The question becomes how much effort would it be to convince the GL to recharter LofR to allow guest members and who would be motivated to do that work. The fact that OES has or can have its own Chapter of Research reduces the motivation significantly. The fact that OAS CofR do exist in some states is also circular reasoning relative to GL LofR and thus a weak reason, but it further reduces the motivation.

    Lodges of Research around the country are usually hurting for papers. Have you confirmed they only take papers from members?
     
  13. Ol Kev

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    How does the female perspective on this have any bearing on a fraternity which is exclusive for men, certainly in the Texas jurisdiction? Our fraternity is not based on some academic exercise to facilitate one's research. It is much deeper than that and it is by its very nature, exclusive.

    I do not see why this is even an issue for discussion given the history of the fraternity and our current obligations.
     
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  14. MajaOES

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    Brother Ol Kev,


    I understand your concern. I respect and understand the obligations of you oath probably more than most people taking two in my youth and six as an adult. However, the personal journey I go on only provides me the insight the founders had at the time of my rituals creation. The paths and lights of insight are different for every organization and the original insight was shared and was once possessed by the one organization I can't belong to. I took obligations to not to disrupt the principle fraternity that gave me our order. Personal enlightenment gets you only so far. If allowed with the same insight, enlightenment, and personal experience you have had as a brother, I can expand and share further the advancement of the craft with those that come behind me. Although I understand in Texas the prospects of sharing in this fraternal knowledge is slim I still peruse the knowledge I am allowed to share in to further myself, my path to the Supreme Architect, and for the development of humankind.


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  15. dfreybur

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    You could join a female only or mixed lodge. As such orders are clandestine that would cost you your OES membership. It would be a tough choice to make if such a group were local. The nearest such group is not in commuting distance. Probably not the way to go.
     
  16. Bro.Joseph.Rossi.Pa.Mason

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    Its called a brotherhood for a reason
     
  17. Bro.Joseph.Rossi.Pa.Mason

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    Its called a brotherhood for a reason ImageUploadedByMy Freemasonry Pro1388460319.670580.jpg
     
  18. Ol Kev

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  19. Sammcd

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    My obligation does not permit it.
     
  20. BryanMaloney

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    If women want to form a real-world Bene Gesserit in parallel with our real-world Mentat's Guild, good for them. They don't seem to be eager to start.
     

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