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Women in masonry
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Ripcord22A
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What is this Masonery you speak of?
Furthermore how do i distort the meaning? you are the one distorting it to fit your own opinion. I am going right off the dictionanry definition.
Furthermore you didnt answer any of my questions.
Furthermore your right YOU cant force anyone to do anything.
Furthermore, Governments can and do, especially when it comes to men, whites and christians. Look at the case in Oregon where a small independant bakery was forced in to bankruptcy becasue they were sued by a Gay couple that wanted this bakery to bake their wedding cake. The Bakery Refused as it was against their religion(which is protected by the US CONSTITUTION BILL OF RIGHTS) and were sued and lost to the tune of several hundred thousand USDs. Look at hobby lobby and their fight with Obama care and the birth control stipulation, again an org owned by a christian being forced to do something that is against their beliefs. no one is being forced to work at Hobby Lobby. Look at the case with the Gay preacher that tried to defame Whole Foods by writing a gay slur on a cake he bought, when the baker is Gay. All these groups try to force their beliefs down others throats.
Furthermore, as a Freemason I have never seen a fellow freemason, other then COs, try to push their beliefs of what is right or wrong down someone elses throat.
Firthermore, I am not discriminating at all. The organisation that I belong to is a private club, there are pleanty of private womans clubs that dont allow men. heres one....Http://www.curves.com are they sexist cause they dont allow men to join their gym?
Furthermore how do i distort the meaning? you are the one distorting it to fit your own opinion. I am going right off the dictionanry definition.
Furthermore you didnt answer any of my questions.
Furthermore your right YOU cant force anyone to do anything.
Furthermore, Governments can and do, especially when it comes to men, whites and christians. Look at the case in Oregon where a small independant bakery was forced in to bankruptcy becasue they were sued by a Gay couple that wanted this bakery to bake their wedding cake. The Bakery Refused as it was against their religion(which is protected by the US CONSTITUTION BILL OF RIGHTS) and were sued and lost to the tune of several hundred thousand USDs. Look at hobby lobby and their fight with Obama care and the birth control stipulation, again an org owned by a christian being forced to do something that is against their beliefs. no one is being forced to work at Hobby Lobby. Look at the case with the Gay preacher that tried to defame Whole Foods by writing a gay slur on a cake he bought, when the baker is Gay. All these groups try to force their beliefs down others throats.
Furthermore, as a Freemason I have never seen a fellow freemason, other then COs, try to push their beliefs of what is right or wrong down someone elses throat.
Firthermore, I am not discriminating at all. The organisation that I belong to is a private club, there are pleanty of private womans clubs that dont allow men. heres one....Http://www.curves.com are they sexist cause they dont allow men to join their gym?
Me too. Out of all the people who profess to practice some form of Freemasonic Order, I find that it is only the co-masons, and more specifically, the males of this order, that tend to militantly proselytize their philosophies and righteously condemn those who won't drink their Kool-aid.
And the icing on the cake is when they don't get their way, they cry foul, claim victimhood (even though they are most contrivingly violent and disrespectfully manipulating in their ways) and make continual effort to bully their way further, dismissing relevant facts over wishful thinkings.
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Warrior1256
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Agreed.
I have no problem with this. Live and let live, I say. I have a problem with people denouncing regular Masonry because it excludes women.
Warrior1256
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Absolutely!
@jmd I understand that you are furious facing the reality of definitions of sexism and it apllies to your behavior ! I only post the dictionnaries definition. You can deny ... it wont change the reality. In a way it is good that you are ashamed to realize that this behavior is sexist.
Apparently for people like the pretended "coach", no arguments but opinions to discredit not the opinions, but the persons classified through his fantasms as mad, fool, etc ... ! It is totally absurd ! If you read your tricentenary rituals (instead of chattering about gay baker or bigottery totally irrelevant of the subject) you should read that FM is UNIVERSAL ! And that FM are ONE PEOPLE on the surface of the earth, sharing SAME RULES. Your categorisations have nothing to do with freemasonery but your social, political life.
I know that for some of you, pride and arrogance have replaced our masonic texts.
On this forum I expect to exchange with freemasons who found their opinions on the masonic rituals, not on their religious beliefs or sexual practices or self-opinion..
Apprently, you deny right to some masons to express their opinions about women in freemasonery (the subject) and especially to the ones who practice Freemasonery with women and who normally know the REAL situation ... Is'it silly ?
Apparently, you defend your right to militate for your sexism and deny the right to express opposite opinions ?
OK ! it is easy to insult, as you do ... Proof of weakness.
You ave to consider A FACT : Sexism is mandatory in the lodges accepting to obey your organisations, women-men are not mandatory in non-sexist masonery.
So, dont play the "victims", please !
Apparently for people like the pretended "coach", no arguments but opinions to discredit not the opinions, but the persons classified through his fantasms as mad, fool, etc ... ! It is totally absurd ! If you read your tricentenary rituals (instead of chattering about gay baker or bigottery totally irrelevant of the subject) you should read that FM is UNIVERSAL ! And that FM are ONE PEOPLE on the surface of the earth, sharing SAME RULES. Your categorisations have nothing to do with freemasonery but your social, political life.
I know that for some of you, pride and arrogance have replaced our masonic texts.
On this forum I expect to exchange with freemasons who found their opinions on the masonic rituals, not on their religious beliefs or sexual practices or self-opinion..
Apprently, you deny right to some masons to express their opinions about women in freemasonery (the subject) and especially to the ones who practice Freemasonery with women and who normally know the REAL situation ... Is'it silly ?
Apparently, you defend your right to militate for your sexism and deny the right to express opposite opinions ?
OK ! it is easy to insult, as you do ... Proof of weakness.
You ave to consider A FACT : Sexism is mandatory in the lodges accepting to obey your organisations, women-men are not mandatory in non-sexist masonery.
So, dont play the "victims", please !
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I congratulate you that you realize there is a problem ! But the problem is not the ones who denounces and exhibit YOUR problem.. You prefer your head in the sand ?
Ripcord22A
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U didnt post the definitions...i did....and you twisted it for your own arguement. Im not ashamed of anything about MASONRY.
However i am still trying to figure out what MASONERY is.....
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However i am still trying to figure out what MASONERY is.....
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Ripcord22A
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dfreybur
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I wondered what this discussion was about so I clicked the "Show ignored content" link at the bottom of the page. Ah ha.
Click username. In the list of options is a radio button marked Ignore. problem solved. I have a very small number of posters ignored but it significantly increases my reading experience.
Click username. In the list of options is a radio button marked Ignore. problem solved. I have a very small number of posters ignored but it significantly increases my reading experience.
Warrior1256
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I'm with you!
Warrior1256
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Because I disagree with you on this subject? Then, yes! I'm a proud "head sander".
Warrior1256
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Seems to me that this describes your actions perfectly.
Me too! But every once in a while I engage to do my occasional tire rotation and oil change. It requires dealing with a few nuts and screwy things, but it's worth it... at least sometimes.
Ripcord22A
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@dfreybur hope im not the one youve ignored...lol
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Ripcord22A
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So Joaben has only been a member here since nov 6 15 amd only has 56 posts, has never started a thread and all of his comments are in threads similar to this one. I smell a troll. I bet this dude isnt even a Freemason, that ones for you coach, he probably got blackballed cause he wants to let women in our boys club
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