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At what point?

James F Jackson

James F Jackson

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Sir this doubt to shall pass as it did in the begining and you have been rejuvinated grab that trowel and continue your journey

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dew_time

dew_time

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bupton52 said:
I think I'm a tad bit confused at what is being asked now.

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I didn't ask anything. My friend James asked about light in the north. I mentioned that I don't think masons are seeking light as much as enlightment but I could be wrong.

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dew_time

dew_time

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thebackman said:
Wow! Grammatically false sentences are found a lot.
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Didn't you say in other post that it was wrong to judge or say people are wrong? So when you stated this you were only reffering to your own feeling and how someone offended you? But should you also apply that same thing to other people here?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You have written some slightly strange things and we have givin you respect and been polite.. I think we deserve the same treatment. We are humans and we are not perfect.. yourself included.
As far as grammatical errors goes.. most of us are typing with our thumbs on our "smartphones". Some of us are looking at clocks that say its 12am... errors happen.

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dfreybur

dfreybur

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dew_time said:
I believe the Brethren are searching for enlightment in the masonic craft which is different than light.
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Exactly. This makes it very hard to answer the question "Is there light in the north?" At some points light is physical illumination by the Sun. At other points light is knowledge or wisdom. Darkness could be either the unknown or the unknowable. Depending on approach and layer of symbolism the answers yes and no both work.
 
jwhoff

jwhoff

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dfreybur said:
Just checking - Are you aware that it is the worldwide standard that EAs owe dues, have a vote and are full members of their lodges? Everywhere outside of the US (or maybe US and Canada) follows this worldwide standard.

Across the US GLs are moving back towards the worldwide standard in small steps. Almost all US GLs once again admit EAs and FCs to our business meetings. Some US GLs have resumed changing EAs and FCs dues.

The time will come when it's time to move on to the next step and charge dues. Looking at my wrist watch, the year is now different from the year EAs and FCs were allowed into our Stated meetings. To me it's time. When will it be time for you? Be sure to answer in terms of the world wide standard not in terms of "we've always done it that way" because that's the wrong "we". The US made that change in the 1840s when the anti-Masonic movement and political party were in full swing. The reasons we diverged from the worldwide standard are long gone and long obsolete.

Hey look! A soap box appeared under my feet ... Chortle.
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Thanks for the information brother. Didn't know that to be the case. Still the full obligations are more necessary to my thinking. But this is all a personal belief. I have no strong objection to your point of view.
 
stuntman98

stuntman98

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Seriously

PM Pride of Walton #110
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stuntman98

stuntman98

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I agree

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dew_time

dew_time

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Blake Bowden said:
EA you're a Mason, just shouldn't wear the bling yet.
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As I understand it no one who isn't a MM can't wear the bling as the di.t understand the symbolism of it and don't know how to respond if they are test by other MM's. Is this correct?

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