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Ashley623 said:

So I am new here but not to the whole freemasonry subject and definitely not new to religion and my views on this matter, for myself I had not ever been given the opportunity to be involved in any religion and this is because my mother raised me and through this came alot of unanswered questions for me. Not just about God but of life itself, now I'm not sure about anyone else but since I was very young I tried so hard to believe in...something, and out of that were my doubts and feelings of lies around me and everything I heard. I want answers and I think that I won't ever get those answers. Once I was older, 14 or so, I started to have faith in Christianity but the more I read deeper into the Bible, the more I was confused, which made me stop and a few years ago I just decided that I have no idea what is reality and what is just propaganda to have everyone have "something" to believe in.....I started reading deep into things like the Catholic church and the people who believe and I am also trying to figure out this whole thing about the Illuminati, which people think I'm crazy, like my mother. But I know there is something that I have always been digging into and searching for and I want to find it and learn to expand my mind and soul. So, with that being said, anyone have some suggestions???

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Your on the right path the search for knowledge is a life long journey I find peace and truth threw the Christian doctrines but also find wisdom in other sects and religions threw the liberal arts and sciences we find certain patterns that gives man kind assurance of a creator that Divine Providence that one day we all hope to meet peace in your travels and remember your a free person u choose and have the ability to seek knowledge keep searching







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Thank you brother, and your words truly make me more eager to learn more about everything and that's what I want, to find peace within myself with the knowledge I feel I need. If you know of any web pages that can help beyond the Bible, or anyone else, please let me know or email me. Thank you...

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Hi Ashley,
My names Elijah and im not a Mason but im seriously interested in becoming a Free Mason. So if you could help me with any information on the right websites, books or etc.


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Ashley623 said:

Thank you brother, and your words truly make me more eager to learn more about everything and that's what I want, to find peace within myself with the knowledge I feel I need. If you know of any web pages that can help beyond the Bible, or anyone else, please let me know or email me. Thank you...

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elijah925 said:

Hi Ashley,
My names Elijah and im not a Mason but im seriously interested in becoming a Free Mason. So if you could help me with any information on the right websites, books or etc.


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Find a local lodge and talk with them they will guide you in the right direction


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I was born and raised a Catholic and went to Catholic school for twelve years and I am a freemason and proud of it. I know a lot of Catholic brethren. I really don't care what the church thinks about it. I've become a better man because of it.


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It's funny that this issue is still alive and well today. My wife and kids are catholic and I'm a regular at mass. I carry a key chain with the masonic emblem on it and one day, I emptied my pockets. A gentlemen saw the emblem and asked if I was a mason. I proudly said yes. He informed me that he was a knight of Columbus. When I said that it was a good group and my brother in law was one, he asked me why we aren't supposed to like each other. We talked and laughed at that one. We are all here to help each other and our communities. Ignorance is a dangerous thing. We are the only ones who can defeat it. Remember to always square your actions and people will see what we are truly all about.

From what I have seen the Vatican blames the Freemasons for the revolution and loss of power that it suffered and since a lot of men in power were Freemasons they used Freemasonry as a scapegoat especially since we allow men of any religious belief as long have that know and believe in God our whatever they refer to him as based on their religious beliefs so The Grand Architect is our name of choice.I am Baptist I don't have the issues Catholics have and I hate that you have to deal with that stuff just because you want to better yourself

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I have a friend at work or did. He is catholic and after a year of talking on a daily basis he finally saw the ring on my finger. Now he barely says a word to me anymore. I still wear my ring everywhere proudly no matter what anyone thinks.

Sometimes I wonder what God would say about all this bickering among his children that ALL belong to him. All these churches everywhere..... These houses of worship (catholic, baptist, penticost, methodist, jewish, nondenom, they ALL belong to him. It's shameful that senior leadership (Pope, Bishops, Evangelists, etc...) in all of the faiths perpetuate separation if one doesn't follow THEIR beliefs. Surely God has to be somewhat disappointed with what these "Godly" people are doing.

My in-laws are Pentecostal and they believe masonry is evil. Not sure if all pentecostals do. It has not changed my relationship with them though and I love them dearly. My wife and I go to a Baptist church and there are many masons there.

Because of the nature of our fraternity, it has caused many outside to question the motives of our fellowship. This has led to conjecture and false claims. Before I was a Mason I read up on the frat. Of course it was books written by ex-masons who were unhappy with the frat. So of course it made wild claims of being a cult and other silly things. freemasonry is a frat. of good men. It IS NOT the path of salvation. I do like to think of it as a FINGER that can point a person TO the path. If one listens with their heart the words of our degree's in the Blue Lodge, and in the York Rite (other I can not attest for I am not a member) then I am confident that the path being pointed out is a good one.

I see the Papal Bull against Masonry as purely political and not Spiritually based. We always forget that the Papacy is also a Kingdom and political in its operation. I'm not a Catholic but love God's universal Church, as I love my membership in the universal Fraternity of Freemasonry. If I were Catholic I wouldn't ever fear for my soul from my Masonic affiliation; because my Masonic education reinforces and echos the very virtues found in the Sacred Law. If a Parish tries to kick you out as a Freemason, then you should find another Parish, because that one has forgotten the Christian rule of granting asylum to righteous Men and you should seek one that still does. My opinion.

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I see the Papal Bull against Masonry as purely political and not Spiritually based. We always forget that the Papacy is also a Kingdom and political in its operation. I'm not a Catholic but love God's universal Church, as I love my membership in the universal Fraternity of Freemasonry. If I were Catholic I wouldn't ever fear for my soul from my Masonic affiliation; because my Masonic education reinforces and echos the very virtues found in the Sacred Law. If a Parish tries to kick you out as a Freemason, then you should find another Parish, because that one has forgotten the Christian rule of granting asylum to righteous Men and you should seek one that still does. My opinion.

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Agreed, Brother. No parish in the US is going to kick you out or deny you Communion because you're a Mason. Just don't advertise it at church. It's none of your pastor's business what you do outside of mass.


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I am Catholic, and have no concerns about judgement day because of being a Mason. It has reinforced those values I was taught by my parents and my faith growing up.

Like the lyrics of a song, " IF LOVING YOU IS WRONG, I DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT." Which is the same as saying, if Being a Mason is a wrong, I DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT! I haven't seen or been taught anything in Masonry that is contradictory with those teachings or values of my Catholic faith. In fact, I am a much better man today (seven years hence) because of the teachings of Humanity and Spirituality taught in our rituals both in Blue Lodge and other Appended Bodies of which I am affiliated. We are held to a higher standard in order to belong to our beloved Fraternity.

It is through the ignorance of those uneducated non-members that we see a lot of conjecture and untruths perpetrated against the Fraternity for various reasons. This is further perpetuated by those former Brothers that had a "falling out" with their Lodge and wanted to lash out at the Fraternity for personal reasons.

On a separate note, it was reported that when Our Brother John Wayne was given the Sacrament of Last Rights by his priest, he was told he would have to denounce Masonry to have them conferred upon him. He responded by saying that he denounced any group that he was affiliated with that was unChristian in its' teachings. It was stated that the priest continued with the Sacrament and Last Rights were conferred upon our beloved Brother prior to his passing to that Celestial Lodge above.

May God bless you, and Light your path from above.

Yours, in His service