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PHA and A.F. & A.M Working Together

bupton52

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Old habits die hard, I believe the lessons that are taught which is subduing the passions and improving our self are not yet fully applied. This subject will always and forever will be a touchy I mean when I petitioned a 4 letter last year I got rejected because of my race and then I go to another one and they accepted me with open arms and lord knows I'm proud to be part of the canvas.

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What state are you in?
 

bupton52

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But sadly pha lord bless em is still having problems getting recognized in sum states smh

357

Is PHA having a problem? I wasn't aware of that. Do you have the names of the states that have recently submitted for recognition and have been denied? What lodge are you a member of in NC?
 

Virgin Islands Brother

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How about this one my Brethren. I'm an African American West Indian. My lodge is AF&AM what would be termed "mainstream". However, we are predominantly African American West Indian. We are not Prince Hall affiliated.

Now when I meet my brothers in Prince Hall. I get questions like, "Why are you in that Lodge?".

I've been told several times, you are a Prince Hall Mason, your just not in a Prince Hall Lodge.

Now, the Caucasian and Middle Eastern Brethren in my lodge prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all men can live in unity. Congregating in lodge one thing but when that brotherly live continues beyond the temple, that's a beautiful thing to see, the tolerance masonry speaks of executed at its finest.

In regards to the subject of coming together, I remain optimistic. Right now, in the Virgin Islands, there is a Prince Hall Lodge who is severing its ties with Georgia. They will move, if they haven't already, their affiliation to Barbados. This is the same jurisdiction my Lodge falls under. I will, and they will be able to visit. This is a beautiful thing. In recent days past, that was not possible.

We have a different dynamic of race and cultures here. I've lived in Boston and New York. And I must say race relations in the islands isn't as complicated. However, what I do know is, based on what I have experienced in masonry, it is possible to subdue this topic. Someone said it on this thread, the old guys don't have to die. We, the NOT SO OLD have a say and a right to act.

All we have to do is speak loudly. This is our masonry in my eyes. The man that raised me made that clear. In fact he feels he has done such a good job in raising MMs that he wants to observe us in action vs dictate them. Sorry I was so long winded but I truly want this one trampled on.

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BryanMaloney

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How about this one my Brethren. I'm an African American West Indian. My lodge is AF&AM what would be termed "mainstream". However, we are predominantly African American West Indian. We are not Prince Hall affiliated.

Now when I meet my brothers in Prince Hall. I get questions like, "Why are you in that Lodge?".

I've been told several times, you are a Prince Hall Mason, your just not in a Prince Hall Lodge.

Prince Hall Masonry is a historical aberration, due to a unique flaw in the character of the USA. In no other country was Masonry explicitly divided along racial lines. Only the USA saw fit to institutionalize racism within Freemasonry. Thus, there is no such thing as Prince Hall Masonry in any other country, except if exported from the USA. That anyone would say your are a Prince Hall Mason but just not in a Prince Hall Lodge is every bit as racist as someone saying you could not be a Regular Mason by virtue of your race.
 

BroBook

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I would very much like to see the Prince Hall Grand Lodge and the "George Washington" Grand Lodge of each state become a United Grand Lodge, and it may happen some day, but I doubt I'll live to see it. As has been stated, there are a lot of people on both sides who would oppose it, for a variety of reasons.

I would like to see those reasons that they,our leaders would use for not using the working tools to do the work they were created to do.all true brothers are I think already under one GRAND MASTER!!!! So may his will be done. I am Prince Hall,I consider my self Hebrew , I worship at a Baptist church and I love masonry !


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BroBook

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How about this one my Brethren. I'm an African American West Indian. My lodge is AF&AM what would be termed "mainstream". However, we are predominantly African American West Indian. We are not Prince Hall affiliated.

Now when I meet my brothers in Prince Hall. I get questions like, "Why are you in that Lodge?".

I've been told several times, you are a Prince Hall Mason, your just not in a Prince Hall Lodge.

Now, the Caucasian and Middle Eastern Brethren in my lodge prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all men can live in unity. Congregating in lodge one thing but when that brotherly live continues beyond the temple, that's a beautiful thing to see, the tolerance masonry speaks of executed at its finest.

In regards to the subject of coming together, I remain optimistic. Right now, in the Virgin Islands, there is a Prince Hall Lodge who is severing its ties with Georgia. They will move, if they haven't already, their affiliation to Barbados. This is the same jurisdiction my Lodge falls under. I will, and they will be able to visit. This is a beautiful thing. In recent days past, that was not possible.

We have a different dynamic of race and cultures here. I've lived in Boston and New York. And I must say race relations in the islands isn't as complicated. However, what I do know is, based on what I have experienced in masonry, it is possible to subdue this topic. Someone said it on this thread, the old guys don't have to die. We, the NOT SO OLD have a say and a right to act.

All we have to do is speak loudly. This is our masonry in my eyes. The man that raised me made that clear. In fact he feels he has done such a good job in raising MMs that he wants to observe us in action vs dictate them. Sorry I was so long winded but I truly want this one trampled on.

Peace my Brethren


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Prince Saif Shallah

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Brother,

I am of Latino race, race color or religion should not matter in Masonry.
I am a proud member of A F A M Lodge Coastal 57 Stonington CT and I say proud because CT was the first state to end Segregation between Mansory.

Regards!

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