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Georgia Grand Lodge Caught In Open Racism

rhitland

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Freemasonry has traditionally been a tolerant and diverse fraternity that forbids discussion of politics, religion and other potentially divisive topics, said Christopher L. Hodapp, a 32nd-degree Mason and the author of “Freemasons for Dummies.”

Mr. Hodapp scoffed at the complaints against Gate City, which said in part that the lodge had violated the “ancient landmarks” and “immemorial usages” of Freemasonry.


Was'nt this guy a member on here?

Last year, a West Virginia Masonic leader was expelled for proposing to loosen the rules that kept the state’s mainstream chapters all white.

Sad sad sad :(
 

Wingnut

Premium Member
Yes and he still is as far as I know. Bro Chris is also the author Freemasonry for Dummies and several other books. His blog has been chronicling the drama out of GA for some time. He was one of the first to publicly cry "B*LLSH*T" when charges were filled against Gates Lodge and has been a strong supporter of Gates for some time now.

Yes there was some issues in WVA last year when a PGM was expelled, I havent seen much about it lately other than a lawsuit was filled there also.
 

Wingnut

Premium Member
Yes and he still is as far as I know. Bro Chris is also the author Freemasonry for Dummies and several other books. His blog has been chronicling the drama out of GA for some time. He was one of the first to publicly cry "B*LLSH*T" when charges were filled against Gates Lodge and has been a strong supporter of Gates for some time now.

Yes there was some issues in WVA last year when a PGM was expelled, I havent seen much about it lately other than a lawsuit was filled there also.
 

rhitland

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Yes and he still is as far as I know. Bro Chris is also the author Freemasonry for Dummies and several other books. His blog has been chronicling the drama out of GA for some time. He was one of the first to publicly cry "B*LLSH*T" when charges were filled against Gates Lodge and has been a strong supporter of Gates for some time now.

Yes there was some issues in WVA last year when a PGM was expelled, I havent seen much about it lately other than a lawsuit was filled there also.


You can say that agin Wing........ oh you did cool then.
 

owls84

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Premium Member
So I'm thinking more and more on this and how this could directly affect us in TX. My question is, if found guilty, could the Grand Lodge of TX possibly lose their Tax Exempt Status by not unrecognizing an orginization that allows racism?

From the article:
This is not Freemasonry in the 21st Century. This is not tolerable, on a personal level or from a Grand Lodge level, especially our Grand Lodges are an electable body from the craft lodge. Recognition of Georgian Freemasonry must be held in questioned especially if they are so ignorant to hold these ideas to be Moral Laws. If in fact they do then Recognition must be terminated.
 

Skogie

Registered User
Arizona faced this same problem over 15 years ago. It was resolved with the Grand Master at that time hitting it with a large Setting Maul, squashing it, stomping on it and burying it in a hole facing East to West and 6 ft. in depth. Then pouring wet cement on it.:):)

AZ now recognizes Prince Hall Lodges and have several black men who are members of AZ. Lodges. We can also visit each others Lodges. There is a certain protocol that must be followed however.

We also have a native Pima Indian who is a Past Master of Scottsdale No. 43 in Scottsdale, AZ.

It took a couple years of legislative action at the annual Communications and some negotiating with Prince Hall Grand Lodge to have this arrangement.

Some of the old PM's were very upset.

When the Resolution passed at Grand Lodge and the vote count was taken, there were 375 votes cast. 374 in favor of recognition, 1 against.

There was dead silence for about 5 seconds after the vote was announced then, suddenly, one brother started clapping, then another, then another, and the entire assembly then stood up for roaring and cheering with a 2 minute long hand clap.

I think that at that moment I was never more proud to be a Mason than anytime before or since.

Richard Skoglund, PM
Secretary
Payson Lodge No. 70
Payson, Arizona
 

rhitland

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Trully inspiring, thanks for that story fills me with hope!! 374 to 1 that is just to cool way to be my AZ Brothers.
 

RedTemplar

Johnny Joe Combs
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Brothers, tell me what you think of this. Kentucky is one of ten states left that does not recognize Prince Hall Masonry. In the last two weeks the GM of KY has issued an edict proclaiming it unmasonic conduct discuss anyone's race, creed, or religion in a masonic lodge. He goes on to state there is nothing in our constitution to prohibit the acceptance of any man on these grounds. I don't know what the reaction of this edict will be, but in my opinion its long overdue.
 

Wingnut

Premium Member
A good strong statement and as you said long over due. It wont stop people from doing it, but it at least sends the message that it wont be tolerated if found out about.
 

rhitland

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It is wierd we as Masons need edicts to treat people on the level. Long overdue is an understatment though. As long they can talk of religion on general terms I agree with that 100%.
 

Blake Bowden

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Now is the time

I recently ran across this post...holy smokes!

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Brethren, I'm sure most of you have heard of, read about, spoken of, or at least browsed something about the events at Gate City 2 in Atlanta, GA. The specific events regarding my membership and possibly the membership of thousands of others in Georgia (in reference to "non-white"). The Brethren and I would like thank everyone for their continued support of Gate City throughout this endeavor.

I would also like to personally thank the Brethren that I've met either in person, on the phone, or here. Your support has strengthened my resolve and installed in me a positive relevancy regarding the Craft that nothing or no one can ever take from me. I would also like to speak a moment on the issue of relevancy.

Georgia Freemasonry and Freemasonry in general is at pivotal point in history. An edict by the Grand Lodge of GA has been issued in short stating that no reference will be made to exclude any petitioner with regard to race, color, or national origin in any of the lodges falling under the Grand Lodge of GA. You can find out more about that here: http://freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.co ... orgia.html. Its a step in the right direction and hopefully a few more steps can be made toward the survival of the Craft and further cement the lessons learned from these events into at least the Georgia Masonic Code and law.

The Grand Lodge will meet on October 27-28 for Annual Communication in Macon, GA where some important bills will be put to vote. Some of the important bills include six bills constructed by Gate City's own illustrious Brother David Llewellyn, will be presented at this time. I will post the bills for your reading. For those of you that have linking capability, your help would be appreciated.

But, I said all that to say this. Now is the time Brethren, that we should all come together in the spirit of Craft and ensure that we survive and provide the correct example of Freemasonry to future generations. No time is more relevant than now in changing the face of Freemasonry and showing the Craft in the reverent light in which it should always be displayed. Now is the time that you can further your support for Freemasonry and Gate City 2. Please come out to support the bills presented by Brother Llewellyn and the other Brethren that will help the Craft grow. Many of you have been waiting for the right time to make a positive impact on the Craft and I say to you Brethren. Now is the time. Thanks for allowing me the room to post and thanks again for all the continued support.

Brother Victor Marshall
 
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LRG

Premium Member
Re: Now is the time

Brother Marshall has the strength of an army of Angels'.
And thank you for not giving up on the craft. A many thanks to all those whom chose to fight for Light.

It would be a great day for humanity, to have GLoT declare an edict of the same.


Thank you Blake for sharing this information and staying in touch with B/Marshall
 

owls84

Moderator
Premium Member
Re: Now is the time

Brother Marshall has the strength of an army of Angels'.
And thank you for not giving up on the craft. A many thanks to all those whom chose to fight for Light.

It would be a great day for humanity, to have GLoT declare an edict of the same.


Thank you Blake for sharing this information and staying in touch with B/Marshall

+ 1,000,000. I could not agree more. I hope that Grand Jurisdictions around the country take note of what is happening in GA and take a proactive approach so we do not have to be reactive.
 

Blake Bowden

Administrator
Staff Member
Tibits from Georgia's 2009-2010 Grand Lodge Session:

1. Each bill submitted to modify the code with respect to race (to be explicitly inclusive) failed to pass.

2. Each edict of the outgoing 2008-2009 Grand Master failed to be approved, and has therefore expired and is no longer in effect.
 

Jamesb

Registered User
Tibits from Georgia's 2009-2010 Grand Lodge Session:

1. Each bill submitted to modify the code with respect to race (to be explicitly inclusive) failed to pass.

2. Each edict of the outgoing 2008-2009 Grand Master failed to be approved, and has therefore expired and is no longer in effect.

What does this mean?
 
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