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Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wants

Ahmed

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Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wants

I totally agree with defreybur.
Change the church.

As for me if I were one I would not tell any one about it because it's self building to me , as men we know how to deal with women , good luck will pray for you.


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jj72438

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

I was raised in a pentacostal church and I can tell you she will not change or change churches. They are set in their ways and if you don't believe like they do in their words you aware going to hell. God luck brother

Randy Imler
SW monette lodge 558
Monette Arkansas


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jj72438

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

I knew what church when you said Tuesday because that is their midweek service, why I have never figured out.


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Companion Joe

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

This is not a disparagement of anyone's church, but just a way to shed some light on churches in MY area:

Around here, you won't generally hear anything negative from established Presbyterian, Methodist, or Baptist churches that have met under the same stained glass and steeple for the last 150 years - (my own church was standing long before the Civil War and withstood a bombardment of downtown during one of the local battles) - you know, the types of churches were the preacher has the title Rev. Dr. So-and-So, many of whom are Masons themselves.

The churches/preachers/churchgoers that have negative comments are usually ones that meet in abandoned convenience stores, some little building that was shackled together out in a field somewhere, a mobile home purchased and turned into a church, etc. They usually have some kind of hand-painted sign that says "Full Gospel" or "Tabernacle of the Redeemer" or "God's Church" or something. The preachers are only "ordained ministers" by the congregation of that particular church, and many times they are just selected "OK, Bill, you can preach this month; then it's Bob's turn." We laughingly refer to these as BYOS - bring your own snakes.

There is a guy who lives just out the road from my folks and myself, and he is one of these self-style "preachers." He has lived there most of my life and has known my family longer than I have been alive. One day my dad and I were working out in the yard, and he stopped by to chat. I don't know what even got it started, but the conversation turned toward him talking about "them ole Masons." My dad and I just looked at each other smiled. We let him say his peace. Then my dad asked him, "how long have you known us?"
"Forever."
"And you say the Masons are up to something bad?"
"Oh yeah. ... (I don't remember what all he said here)"
"You realize you are talking to two of them, and you know we don't do any of those things."
"Oh, oh, oh, but I don't mean you regular Masons. Y'all's good people. It's just them higher ups that's the bad ones."
"Well, in one aspect of it, Joe here is the highest ranking one in this part of the state." (I just shook my head and smiled)
"Uhhhhh, well, I gotta go."
 

jwhoff

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

Must agree with Coachn' on this one brother. It doesn't appear to be a masonic problem at all.

Relationships grow in direct proportion to the individuals there involved. And, there's never room for more than two. Pastors, mothers-in-law, fathers-in-law, siblings, et al are outsiders. Drama guised as control and jealousy either fade or destroy in the end. Those first few years of marriage are a feeling out process. We must all traverse them.

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rpbrown

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

I want to give a little background on my church first. We are non-denominational. We have a senior pastor who was a Demolay in his youth and 2 associate pastors. We have a board of directors (4 of 5 are Masons) that include those 3 as well. We also have 29 members who are Masons including one of the associate pastors and the senior pastor's son.
With that said, the associate pastor started doing the old internet search about Masonry and got all of "those sites". You know the ones, that say we are devil worshipers and such. He immediately went to the senior pastor about it who denounced his fears and tried to explain to him that was all not true. The associate did not take his advice and started explaining to the members that were Masons (including myself) what he had found on the internet. Of course each of us told him it was all untrue. However, not being able to change any of our minds, he started going to our wives with this hogwash. Now, some of the wives (especially those of new Masons) became alarmed and started pressuring their husbands to drop Masonry because of it. This created a big turmoil within the church.
I have said all of this to point out that 1 man can sway a large group if given the opportunity. Now my prayers are with you brother. As others above have said, it should be family first before Masonry and you took a vow to God when you got married. Tough situation to be in for sure.
 
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rmcgehee

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

I just know that if my wife told me "Masonry or me" I would go with Masonry.
You have to make a decision.
 

Blake Bowden

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

Before I met my wife I was a Freemason, now after 3 years together, 2 years married she has a problem with me going to meetings she rather have me go to church with her. Church and S.C. are on the same night (Tuesday). She told my Pastor I'm a Freemason he flipped out and is100% against it. She wants me to give up being a Mason but I'm a Mason for life in my heart.. What should I do?

Thank you


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I wouldn't give up being a Freemason for any organized religion. That being said, if I had the choice of attending Church or Lodge I would go with Church, but only if they accepted the fact that I was a Freemason.

I would suggest that you discuss rotating weeks with your Wife. For example one week you attend a meeting another you attend Church. It's all about compromise. In the meantime, educate her about Freemasonry and be prepared to answer any questions she may have.
 
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fasttito

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Thanks to all my brothers for advice.


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rfuller

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I wouldn't give up being a Freemason for any organized religion. That being said, if I had the choice of attending Church or Lodge I would go with Church, but only if they accepted the fact that I was a Freemason.

I would suggest that you discuss rotating weeks with your Wife. For example one week you attend a meeting another you attend Church. It's all about compromise. In the meantime, educate her about Freemasonry and be prepared to answer any questions she may have.

I'm going to agree with Blake here. I feel like some of the other comments are emphasizing the fight, and not looking for a solution. The fraternity is very clear about what our priorities should be, and Freemasonry isn't at the top of that list. I would work on calming your wife's mind about Freemasonry before addressing the pastor. I'm not sure what your lodge's meeting structure looks like. At mine, our business meeting is once, on the third tuesday of every month, and our floor practice meets every week on Mondays. If I were in your shoes, I'd drop the floor practice, but remain active at the business meetings. If things never change, and you absolutely feel called to be a part of the degree team, or hold an office, perhaps you should consider finding another lodge that coincides with your church schedule. There are lots of ways you can find a reasonable compromise. The brothers at my lodge have these kinds of things happen all the time. Recently we had to vote to move our floor practice day because so many were in your shoes.

You shouldn't put your marriage at risk for Freemasonry. You may have to find another lodge, but it's not worth severing the sacred bonds of matrimony to stay at the same lodge on a tuesday.

Also, I would gently suggest finding another church, as one brother to another, but it certainly isn't MY place to advise you on YOUR faith. Just my perspective, certainly not something I would want you to fight with your wife over because some anonymous person on the internet told you to.

I wish you luck, and I encourage you to find a solution with your wife, rather than cornering up and being stubborn.
 

dfreybur

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

You shouldn't put your marriage at risk for Freemasonry.

Yet that is exactly what his wife did. Sad how that works.

You may have to find another lodge, but it's not worth severing the sacred bonds of matrimony to stay at the same lodge on a tuesday.

If it were only about Tuesday I would recommend affiliating with a different lodge. A friend who was elected a deacon in his church switched from our Monday lodge to a Wednesday lodge and he's since a Past Master in his Wednesday lodge. But this example is not only about Tuesday.
 

flttrainer

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

Brother, I really hope a solution finds its way to your problem. My church has a Tuesday evening bible study and my lodge meets Tuesdays for fellowship/practice. Fortunately, my lodge also meets Sunday evenings for fellowship/practice. Our solution is that I attend lodge Sundays and she goes to bible study on Tuesdays (we have a young daughter). If we have a degree on a Tuesday, she either stays home or we get a babysitter. Compromise is a must in a marriage. But, compromise is a two-way street.

Freemasonry vs marriage is tough. I am blessed to have a wife who understands that I fellowship with my brothers at lodge. She fellowships with the women at bible study. That way each of us has our needs met without sacrificing each others needs. Prayers to you Brother.
 

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

Please forgive me if I am mistaken. but if you have an extra minute or a spare dime, the preacher thinks it belongs to him.
 

LastKingSha174

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

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Yes Brother Josh, Brother TrySquare is correct. I am referring to the book by Arturo De Hoyos Is It True What They Say About Freemasonry. Sorry about that. I should have specified.
 

fasttito

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Re: Wife having a problem with Freemasonry, she wa

Sorry been dark for little while. Things are better, my church moved their Tuesday nights to Wednesday.
It's funny how that worked out...
Thanks to all my brothers for the advice..


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