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Station and Place Questions

Rick Carver

Premium Member
The WM, SW and JW are said to have a "station" while the other officers are said to have a "place." Any thoughts on why this is? In many jurisdictions, it is said that the Tyler "is stationed" but I think this may be erroneous and that he actually has a place. My reasoning behind this belief is that both the Kansas and Colorado manual of movements make direct reference to the Tyler doing something or other, and then returning to his "place." Is my belief valid? How goes this in other jurisdictions?

Robert Herd commandeth me to investigate this, and I agreed to do so for a future article in Living Stones Magazine. Names are changed to protect the innocent.
 

Pscyclepath

Premium Member
May depend on the ritual in your particular jurisdiction... Here in AR, it refers to "stations" for all officers in the opening and closing.
 

Levelhead

Premium Member
I think its because they stay somewhat in the area of their station as in the word "stationed"

The Wm does move from the podium but stays on the east side of the lodge and never passes the east side if the lodge, (unless he takes it upon him self to shake the hand of a candidate who had done something proficient) the candidate or brother is standing in the west opposite of the alter facing east.

The same goes for the wardens , and tyler.

The others Deacons, and Stuarts have floor work to walk about the lodge.

Thats just how i see it. Brothers are always conducted to the stations, the brothers AT the stations are never conducted or asked to move out of the section of their station (section meaning: East, South, or West.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
I learned it as referring to the movable and immovable ashlars in one of the lectures.

Movable ashlars are placed somewhere for the moment. Immovable ashlars are stationed permanently as a part of an edifice. In architecture let's call it load bearing or not. This isn't just a matter of floor work during degrees. It has to do with the evolution of the line of officers. Different jurisdictions have different sets of officers, but what jurisdiction does not have wardens and a master? It also has to do with which officers might be either elected or appointed and which officers must be elected.
 

Rick Carver

Premium Member
See if anyone disagrees with this: (if so, feel free to say so)

In the Kansas jurisdiction, the Worshipful Master, Senior Warden, Junior Warden and Tyler are said to have a station while all other officers have a place. This terminology and usage varies somewhat in other jurisdictions.

In Germany, the Worshipful Master is said to have a seat while the Senior and Junior Wardens each have a place. This is because in the old rituals of the 18th century, all Brothers, including the officers, literally remained standing and only the Worshipful Master had a chair to sit. Today, everyone is seated but the Wardens knock their gavels on the pommel of their swords because they have no pedestal or other furniture to knock on.http://myfreemasonry.com/#_edn1

In Australia, the Worshipful Master, Senior and Junior Wardens have a place while the Senior and Junior Deacons and the Inner Guard (Tyler) are said to have a situation.[ii]

The use of station and place have changed through the years in the United States, however many of the US jurisdictions denote the Worshipful Master, Senior and Junior Wardens as having a station while the remaining officers have a place. Kansas is somewhat outside the norm in that we conclude that the Tyler has a station. I personally believe this may be a misconception, and I will explain my thinking on this later.

In order to fully understand the difference, it is important to look at the root of the words as well as the psychological meanings each holds to the human ego. Station or sta refers to a fixed point; a beginning for a measurement; or originating from a specific point. Place is from the root plat, and means to spread or to have motion.

Thus, one is a fixed point and the other movement. They relate to the microcosm of the human psyche and it remains a good argument that the stations are parts of the psychological makeup of man and, likewise, the places are extensions of our interaction in the material world as they move on the mosaic of the material existence.[iii]

Place and situation have important meanings in the psychology of the ego as well. Both terms are found regularly grouped together in various Masonic rituals and relate specifically to communication and sense of perception. Again, one is fixed, the other not; one is capacity, the other potential. Capacity exists in the present, while potential relates to the past, present, and future.[iv]

These beliefs also align with the lectures of the Entered Apprentice degree regarding immovable and movable jewels. There, we are told that the immovable jewels are the square, plumb and level, which are emblematic of the three principal officers of the Lodge. Since they wear these immovable jewels, the Worshipful Master, Senior and Junior Wardens are themselves immovable, and are thus assigned “stations” at the East, West and South entrances of the temple, which are likewise immovable.

The other officers serve as intermediaries for the three principal officers and they move about the Lodge according to orders received. The importance of their locations is not tied to any specific place, and their relationships are relative to the stations of the various principal officers.[v]

Among their other duties, the principal officers of the Lodge are tasked with instruction and examination of the candidate. This is done entirely from their fixed stations. The Stewards, Deacons and Marshal (when used) are nearly always in transition while performing their duties, and are thus assigned a place, as in: the place they currently occupy to perform them.

The Treasurer and Secretary have few duties in Masonic ritual. Since nether office is associated with an immovable jewel, it seems logical to conclude that they would also be said to occupy a place in the Lodge.

This leaves the Tyler and why he may or may not have a station. Since the Tyler does not wear an immovable jewel, it could be argued that his place is neither stationary nor fixed. Yet, in the lectures of the Entered Apprentice degree, we are instructed about the duty and propriety of our respective stations.

We are also instructed that our ancient brethren usually met on a high hill or a low dale, so they could guard against the profane. This explanation perfectly dovetails with the duties of the Tyler. As he performs this duty, he is always stationed as a fixed point outside the door of the Lodge. This duty is so necessary and well-regulated that he must be relieved by another officer in order to enter the Lodge and cast his ballot to accept a candidate. The adherence to this rigid practice makes a strong argument for the Tyler being said to hold a station, at least in our jurisdiction.

My personal and contrary argument that the Tyler has a place is a direct reference to the printed and accepted books of Uniform Manual of Movements for both Kansas and Colorado. Both of them make direct references to the Tyler performing a duty here or there, and then he “returns to his place.” I am the first to admit this is a somewhat weak argument.

Either term seems perfectly acceptable and proper, but since our Ritual says that the Tyler is stationed, this is the usage we should follow.

Regardless if the jewel they wear is immovable or movable, in every opening/closing of the Lodge each officer is questioned directly or through the previous officer regarding his station or place, and then his duty there. This location and duty serves not only as a teaching tool for those who attend Lodge, but also provides a ritualistic catechism. It is a test — much like the Pass, the Grip and the Step. Each officer must ritualistically and correctly announce where they are located and why there.

This ritualistic catechism of questions and responses are quite prevalent in the old rituals of Masonry, but have become more and more abbreviated in the modern rituals. In doing so, we have unfortunately often lost some of the meaning as to what was being conveyed in them.
 

hollywoodbwc

Registered User
Here in SC the WM, SW and JW are all in stations while are the other officers are in places. I agree with Bro. Doug in that with the evolution of the terms, those 3 officers are the "load bearing" officers of the lodge. You only need 3 people to open a lodge of master masons, and one of those HAS to be a warden of the WM.
 

Willys

Premium Member
My Texas Monitor of the Lodge doesn't say much but does define Station as 'a place where a person or thing usually stnads or is; an assigned location.'

I would take it then that the other Officers have a place, as in no (somewhat) immovable landmark that denotes where they may always be found.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
My Texas Monitor of the Lodge doesn't say much but does define Station as 'a place where a person or thing usually stnads or is; an assigned location.'

I would take it then that the other Officers have a place, as in no (somewhat) immovable landmark that denotes where they may always be found.
Thank you brother.
 

hollywoodbwc

Registered User
Brother Warrior,

To expand on what Brother Willys has said, the JW will always be found in the south, the SW always in the West and the WM always in the East. Some other officers may move, but those will always be in their respective stations.
 

Bill Lins

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Something else to consider- while a "place" may be left vacant temporarily, "stations" must always be occupied while a Lodge is @ labor.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
NM is "stations" for the WM & Wardens, "places" for everyone else. I can't remember any specification regarding the Tyler, but I've always understood it to be "place."
 

Companion Joe

Premium Member
Maybe it's probably a whole lot more simple. Station is used for the three primary elected* officers, and place is used for the appointed officers. It's just a turn of phrase to denote the difference with no deeper meaning.

*yes, the secretary and treasurer are elected, but they don't play a major role degree work, etc.
 

pointwithinacircle2

Rapscallion
Premium Member
Something else to consider- while a "place" may be left vacant temporarily, "stations" must always be occupied while a Lodge is @ labor.
This idea sounds like a worthy candidate for a short talk during Lodge education night. Can you point me towards any documentation on this idea?
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
Brother Warrior,

To expand on what Brother Willys has said, the JW will always be found in the south, the SW always in the West and the WM always in the East. Some other officers may move, but those will always be in their respective stations.
Thank you brother. I'm a new MM and trying to learn.
 

Brother_Steve

Premium Member
I learned it as referring to the movable and immovable ashlars in one of the lectures.

Movable ashlars are placed somewhere for the moment. Immovable ashlars are stationed permanently as a part of an edifice. In architecture let's call it load bearing or not. This isn't just a matter of floor work during degrees. It has to do with the evolution of the line of officers. Different jurisdictions have different sets of officers, but what jurisdiction does not have wardens and a master? It also has to do with which officers might be either elected or appointed and which officers must be elected.
Similar here.

The furniture of the lodge. You have movable furniture and immovable furniture.

The Square, Level and Plumb are immovable pieces of furniture and thus are stations.
 

Willys

Premium Member
NM is "stations" for the WM & Wardens, "places" for everyone else. I can't remember any specification regarding the Tyler, but I've always understood it to be "place."
Seems at some point the Tiler is induced to confirm your understanding.
 
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