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Transformation of the degrees over time

hanzosbm

Premium Member
I have learned the ritual in 2 jurisdictions and I am well into learning the ritual in my 3rd jurisdiction. Each wears the FC apron differently. I was surprised at the difference in my 2nd jurisdiction. By the time I arrived in my 3rd jurisdiction I just shrugged because I now consider it normal for each jurisdiction to be different in that aspect.

The gestures, when done very carefully according to the certified instructors, are also subtly different. Slight differences in the position of the feet or the alignment of the arms. They all look alike when done quickly. Just a tiny bit of sloppiness and they overlap, but I can demonstrate them in order and show the differences if I take my time and do them slowly. In one jurisdiction one of the arms drops in a different order - That detail I find hard to execute for some reason.
I would love to learn/see more about these differences. It's a shame we're not geographically closer.
I just started visiting a CA lodge and haven't seen much difference, but then again, everything is in the EA degree. You mentioned the FC apron, the other differences you've observed, were they also in the FC degree?
I'm hesitant to jump to the conclusion that because it has the most differences, it was the one that was added simply because the standardization took place AFTER the addition of the degree, so, theoretically we shouldn't see universal variation. Unless of course confusion occurred due to organizations outside the mainstream confused things after the standardization. I know some states used the Scottish and French rituals for a time. This could've introduced some confusion. Although, one would think that if the idea to create a third degree came from a single source, the aspects of that degree would've likewise come from a single, universal source.
We also shouldn't forget that a lot of brothers see the FC degree as 'something to get through'. That, combined with the fact that meetings are conducted in either EA or MM means that FC isn't used all that much. It would be easy for it's lessons to become confused over the generations.
 

LAMason

Premium Member
Thats true. Nor does Joseph ever speak a single word in the Bible, but that doesn't mean he was mute. The Catholic Encyclopedia references the Gospel of James and says that it's ascertain that Joseph had children from a previous marriage is the best answer to why Jesus' brothers and sisters are mentioned repeatedly in the Bible. We could spends months debating the reasons for why the council of Nicea choose the books they did, but I for one do not trust the motivations of early church leaders enough to limit my readings to only what they allow.

First, I want to state that I am not trying to be argumentative. I think you would agree with me that the various traditions concerning Joseph and Mary are because of the agendas of various religious sects.

1. One tradition follows what you have presented concerning Joseph having been married previously and having children from that marriage. In that tradition, Joseph was an old man (90 years-40+49+1) when he was espoused to Mary (12 years old). This version is used to support the tradition that Joseph never had sexual relations with Mary and that she was a “perpetual virgin”.

If we look at this in context of James being his son by a previous marriage (in this case James would be a stepbrother of Jesus because of the virgin birth), even if we assume that James was his youngest (some accounts say he was the oldest) and that Joseph was 70 years old when James was born, James would have been at least 82 years old at the time of his death in 62 AD. Not outside the realm of possibility.

However, the information that I found in the Catholic Encyclopedia, states this tradition is considered unreliable.

“It is probably at Nazareth that Joseph betrothed and married her who was to become the Mother of God. When the marriage took place, whether before or after the Incarnation, is no easy matter to settle, and on this point the masters of exegesis have at all times been at variance. Most modern commentators, following the footsteps of St. Thomas, understand that, at the epoch of the Annunciation, the Blessed Virgin was only affianced to Joseph; as St. Thomas notices, this interpretation suits better all the evangelical data.

It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin"), are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.”

Catholic Encyclopedia > J > St. Joseph

2. Another tradition holds that Joseph was not previously married, but never had sexual relations with Mary, and was also a perpetual virgin. In this tradition the term brother as applied to James meant cousin.

3. A third tradition holds that James was a half-brother of Jesus (again because of the virgin birth), being the son of Mary and Joseph.

4. And finally, if you do not accept the virgin birth, he would have been the full brother of Jesus.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
I just started visiting a CA lodge and haven't seen much difference, but then again, everything is in the EA degree. You mentioned the FC apron, the other differences you've observed, were they also in the FC degree?

In California when you step you are body forward and your feet end up diagonally splayed to balance forward. In Illinois when you step you are body forward, one foot pointing straight forward, the other foot at an angle unbalanced. In California when you time the gestures with a count there is only one count where both arms are moving together, moving apart by separate counts. In Illinois when you time the gestures with a count both arms move up on the same count and both arms move down on the same count. In California the hands move in arcs. In Illinois the arms move in straight lines with joints moving to right angles. The difference is quite subtle unless you are instructed in the exact movements. The difference follows the same pattern in the gestures of all three degrees. Even slightly sloppy, and most people do the gestures sloppy unless they are going very slow and together with an instructor, and the differences effectively disappear.

In Texas in the FC one of the arms moves at a different time. That's not a subtle difference - It is quite obvious who took their degrees inside or outside of Texas. Who is the visitor with the arm already down.
 

hanzosbm

Premium Member
Many of the old manuscripts were plagued by historical inaccuracies and fabrications. It's a shame that so many eager Brothers want to believe that these old manuscripts represent some secret and accurate histories that were dismissed by the mainstream.
I think you may be jumping to some conclusions about why some of us are researching these things. Over the course of this discussion I have done a great deal of research on these legends. That doesn't mean that I view them as fact. Our entire craft is about finding meaning in the symbols and stories it teaches. If there are connections to be found or parts of the stories that were lost that might offer more light, I would like to find them. Not because I view it as historical fact, but because it might offer more knowledge of the sort that Masonry offers.
 

hanzosbm

Premium Member
First, I want to state that I am not trying to be argumentative. I think you would agree with me that the various traditions concerning Joseph and Mary are because of the agendas of various religious sects...

I'm glad to hear it, and I appreciate your summation of the views and the points. Especially regarding Joseph's age. As a bit of a side note, is anybody else getting frustrated by sparse use of citation in a lot of writings out there? And LAMason (and others on here), I'm not talking about you. I, admittedly, first referenced the Catholic Encyclopedia, and it cites the Gospel of James as its primary source. Yet, when I actually go to read the Gospel of James, it's missing some of the points made leading me to have to search for where some of these points come from. As is the gospel of pseudo-Matthew, as is the gospel of the nativity of the virgin Mary, as is the Story of Joseph the Carpenter. The last source cited by the Catholic Encyclopedia is the Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph; a text I can't seem to find anywhere.

I did find this article http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/30/marriage-of-mary-to-joseph-the-carpenter/ which goes into great depth about these issues and has a lot of citations, but of the ones I can find, I still don't see the information. As an example, the different ages and timeframes given for Joseph. They seem universally accepted within these articles, but I've yet to read a source document that includes them.

I'm not arguing, I just feel like they're getting information from somewhere and I'd like to get my hands on that same info to see if it has any other info pertinent to out discussion.
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
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I'm glad to hear it, and I appreciate your summation of the views and the points. Especially regarding Joseph's age. As a bit of a side note, is anybody else getting frustrated by sparse use of citation in a lot of writings out there? And LAMason (and others on here), I'm not talking about you. I, admittedly, first referenced the Catholic Encyclopedia, and it cites the Gospel of James as its primary source. Yet, when I actually go to read the Gospel of James, it's missing some of the points made leading me to have to search for where some of these points come from. As is the gospel of pseudo-Matthew, as is the gospel of the nativity of the virgin Mary, as is the Story of Joseph the Carpenter. The last source cited by the Catholic Encyclopedia is the Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph; a text I can't seem to find anywhere.

I did find this article http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/30/marriage-of-mary-to-joseph-the-carpenter/ which goes into great depth about these issues and has a lot of citations, but of the ones I can find, I still don't see the information. As an example, the different ages and timeframes given for Joseph. They seem universally accepted within these articles, but I've yet to read a source document that includes them.

I'm not arguing, I just feel like they're getting information from somewhere and I'd like to get my hands on that same info to see if it has any other info pertinent to out discussion.
You have just expressed what you had to do to seek answers. You have also expressed why Freemasonic plays are so important: They offer opportunity to learn how to research things, which is essential training in learning your own faith.
 
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LAMason

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I'm glad to hear it, and I appreciate your summation of the views and the points. Especially regarding Joseph's age. As a bit of a side note, is anybody else getting frustrated by sparse use of citation in a lot of writings out there? And LAMason (and others on here), I'm not talking about you. I, admittedly, first referenced the Catholic Encyclopedia, and it cites the Gospel of James as its primary source. Yet, when I actually go to read the Gospel of James, it's missing some of the points made leading me to have to search for where some of these points come from. As is the gospel of pseudo-Matthew, as is the gospel of the nativity of the virgin Mary, as is the Story of Joseph the Carpenter. The last source cited by the Catholic Encyclopedia is the Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph; a text I can't seem to find anywhere.

I did find this article http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/30/marriage-of-mary-to-joseph-the-carpenter/ which goes into great depth about these issues and has a lot of citations, but of the ones I can find, I still don't see the information. As an example, the different ages and timeframes given for Joseph. They seem universally accepted within these articles, but I've yet to read a source document that includes them.

I'm not arguing, I just feel like they're getting information from somewhere and I'd like to get my hands on that same info to see if it has any other info pertinent to out discussion.

I could not find anything on "Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph" either.

You probably have already seen this info:

“Thou hast been made blessed in thine old age, O father Joseph, seeing that God hath shown thee to be fit to receive Mary. And the priests having said to him, Take her, because of all the tribe of Judah thou alone hast been chosen by God; Joseph began bashfully to address them, saying: I am an old man, and have children; why do you hand over to me this infant, who is younger than my grandsons? Then Abiathar the high priest said to him: Remember, Joseph, how Dathan and Abiron and Core perished, because they despised the will of God. So will it happen to thee, if thou despise this which is commanded thee by God. Joseph answered him: I indeed do not despise the will of God; but I shall be her guardian until I can ascertain concerning the will of God, as to which of my sons can have her as his wife. Let some virgins of her companions, with whom she may meanwhile spend her time, be given for a consolation to her. Abiathar the high priest answered and said: Five virgins indeed shall be given her for consolation, until the appointed day come in which thou mayst receive her; for to no other can she be joined in marriage.”

The Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew

CHAP. VI.

1 Joseph draws back his rod. 5 The dove pitches on it. He betroths Mary and returns to Bethlehem. 7 Mary returns to her parents’ house at Galilee.

AMONG the rest there was a man named Joseph, of the house and family of David, and a person very far advanced in years, who drew back his rod, when every one besides presented his.

2 So that when nothing appeared agreeable to the heavenly voice, the high-priest judged it proper to consult God again,

3 Who answered that he to whom the Virgin was to be betrothed was the only person of those who were brought together, who had not brought his rod.

4 Joseph therefore was betrayed.

5 For, when he did bring his rod, and a dove coming from Heaven pitched upon the top of it, every one plainly saw, that the Virgin was to be betrothed to him:

6 Accordingly, the usual ceremonies of betrothing being over, he returned to his own city of Bethlehem, to set his house in order, and make the needful for the marriage.

7 But the Virgin of the Lord, Mary, with seven other virgins of the same age, who had been weaned at the same time, and who had been appointed to attend her by the priest, returned to her parents’ house in Galilee.

The GOSPEL of the BIRTH OF MARY

CHAPTER XIV

After this it came to pass, when he returned home to the city of Nazareth, that he fell sick and kept his bed. And this was the time in which he died, as it is appointed unto all men. Now he was grievously afflicted by this sickness, nor had he ever been so ill as at present, from the time he was born. And thus truly it pleased Christ to arrange the affairs of Joseph the Just. Forty years he lived before he entered the married state; his wife remained under his protection forty-nine years, and died when they were gone. One year after her death, my mother, the blessed Mary, was committed to Joseph by the priests, that he might keep her until the time for marriage. Two years she spent in his house, with nothing remarkable occurring, but in the third year of her sojourn with Joseph, and the fifteenth of her age, she bore me in the earth, by a mystery which no creature can penetrate or apprehend, save myself and my Father, and the Holy Spirit, constituting one essence with me.

CHAPTER XV

Therefore, the whole age of my father, the justold man, made up one hundred and eleven years, for so my heavenly Father decreed. And the day on which his soul departed from his body, was the twenty-sixth of the month Abib. For now the fine gold began to lose its brightness, and the silver to be worn with use, I mean his intellect and understanding. Moreover, he loathed his food and drink, and his skill in the carpenter's trade failed him, nor did he any longer have regard to it. It came to pass, therefore, at daybreak on the twenty-sixth day of the month of Abib, that the soul of the old man, Joseph the Just, was rendered unquiet as he lay in his bed, "Wherefore, he opened his mouth and sighed, and smote his hands together, and cried out, with a loud voice, saying after this manner:

THE HISTORY OF JOSEPH THE CARPENTER

THE APOCRYPHAL GOSPELS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE HISTORY OF CHRIST-by B. Harrris Cowper
 

LAMason

Premium Member
At this point, we're missing the 3 ruffians and that portion of the story. Did this part come from James the Just or was it just made up or something else? Hard to say. In storytelling the rule of 3 is common, so 3 attempts with eventual success could easily be independent. ...or not.

The following are from The Enclyclopedia of Freemasonry by Albert Mackey

ASSASSINS OF THE THIRD DEGREE There is in Freemasonry a legend of certain unworthy Craftsmen who entered into a conspiracy to extort from a distinguished Brother a secret of which he was the possessor. The legend is altogether symbolic, and when its symbolism is truly comprehended, becomes a surpassingly beautiful. By those who look at it as having the pretension of an historical fact, it is sometimes treated with indifference, and sometimes considered an absurdity. But it is not thus that the legends and symbols of Freemasonry must be read, if we would learn their true spirit. To behold the goddess in all her glorious beauty, the veil that conceals her statue must be withdrawn. Masonic writers who have sought to interpret the symbolism of the legend of the conspiracy of the three assassins, have not agreed always in the interpretation, although they have finally arrived at the same result, namely, that it has a spiritual signification. Those who trace Speculative Freemasonry to the ancient solar worship, of whom Ragon may be considered as the exponent, find in this legend a symbol of the conspiracy of the three winter months to destroy the life-giving heat of the sun. Those who, like the disciples of the Rite of Strict Observance, trace Freemasonry to a Templar origin, a explain the legend as referring to the conspiracy of the three renegade knights who falsely accused the Order, and thus aided King Philip and Pope Clement to abolish Templarism, and to slay its Grand Master. Hutchinson and Oliver, who labored to give a Christian interpretation to all the symbols of Freemasonry, referred the legend to the crucifixion of the Messiah, the type of which is, of course, the slaying of Abel by his brother Cain. Others, of whom the Chevalier Ramsay has been set forth as the leader, sought to give it a political significance; and, making Charles I the type of the Builder, symbolized Cromwell and his adherents as the conspirators. The Masonic scholars whose aim has been to identify the modern system of Freemasonry with the Ancient Mysteries, and especially with the Egyptian, which they supposed to be the germ of all the others, interpret the conspirators as the symbol of the Evil Principle, or Typhon, slaying the Good Principle, or Osiris; or, when they refer to the Zoroastic Mysteries of Persia, as Ahriman contending against Ormuzd. Lastly, in the Philosophic Degrees, the myth is interpreted as signifying the war of Falsehood, Ignorance, and Superstition against Truth. Of the supposed names of the three Assassins, there is hardly any end of variations, for they materially differ in all the principal rites. Thus, we have Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum in the York and American Rites. In the Adonhiramite system we have Romvel, Gravelot, and Abiram. Romvel has been claimed as a corruption of Cromwell. In the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite we find the names given in the old rituals as Jubelum Akirop, sometimes Abiram, Jubelo Romvel, and Jubela Gravelot. Schterke and Oterfut are in some of the German rituals, while other Scottish rituals have Abiram, Romvel, and Hobhen. In all these names there is manifest corruption, and the patience of many Masonic scholars has been well-nigh exhausted in seeking for some plausible and satisfactory derivation.

GUIBBS The names given to the Assassins of the Third Degree by some of the inventors of the advanced Degrees, are of so singular a form as to have almost irresistibly led to the conclusion that these names were bestowed by the adherents of the house of Stuart upon some of their enemies as marks of infamy. Such, for instance, is Romsel, the name of one of the Assassins in certain Scottish Degrees, which is probably a corruption of Cromwell. Jubelum Guibbs, another name of one of these traitors, has much puzzled the Masonic etymologists. Brother Mackey believed that he had found its origin in the name of the Rev. Adam Gib, who was an antiburgher clergyman of Edinburgh. When that city was taken possession of by the young Pretender, Charles Edward in 1745, the clergy generally fled. But Gib removed only three miles from the city, where, collecting his loyal congregation, he hurled anathema's for five successive Sundays against the Pretender, and boldly prayed for the downfall of the rebellion. He subsequently joined the loyal army, and at Falkirk took a rebel prisoner. So active was Gib in his opposition to the cause of the house of Stuart, and so obnoxious had he become, that several attempts were made by the rebels to take his life. On Charles Edward's return to France, he erected in 1747 his Primordial Chapter at Arras; and in the composition of the advanced Degrees there practiced, it is very probable that he bestowed the name of his old enemy Gib on the most atrocious of the Assassins who figure in the legend of Third Degree. The letter u was doubtless inserted to prevent the French, in pronouncing the name, from falling into the soft sound of the G and called the word Jib. The additional b and s were the natural and customary results of a French attempt to spell a foreign proper name (see Arras, Primoraial Chapter of ). An old handbook in French, Thuileur des Trentetrois Degrees use l'Ecossisme, published in l815 at Paris, mentions on page 79 that some had derived the word Jabulum from Zabulon, a Hebrew word meaning habitation.

RUFFIANS The traitors of the Third Degree are called Assassins in Continental Freemasonry and in the advanced Degrees. The English and American Freemasons have adopted in their instructions the more homely appellation of Ruffians. The fabricators of the high Degrees adopted a variety of names for these Assassins (see Assassins of the Third Degree), but the original names are preserved in the instruetions of the York and American Rites. There is no question that has so much perplexed Masonic antiquaries as the true derivation and meaning of these three names. In their present form, they are confessedly uncouth and without apparent signification.. Yet it is certain that we can trace them in that form to the earliest appearance of the legend of the Third Degree, and it is equally certain that at the time of their adoption some meaning must have been attached to them. Brother Maekey was convinced that this must have been a very simple one, and one that would have been easily comprehended by the whole of the Craft, who were in the constant use of them. Attempts, it is true, have been made to find the root of these three names in some recondite reference to the Hebrew names of God. But there is in Doctor Mackey's opinion, no valid authority for any such derivation. In the first place, the character and conduct of the supposed possessors of these names preclude the idea of any congruity and appropriateness between them and any of the divine names. And again, the literary condition of the Craft at the time of the invention of the names equally precludes the probability that any names would have been fabricated of a recondite signification, and which could not have been readily understood and appreciated by the ordinary class of Freemasons who were to use them. The names must naturally have been of a construction that would convey a familiar idea would be suitable to the incidents in which they were to be employed, and would be congruous with the character of the individuals upon whom they were to be bestowed. Now all these requisites meet in a word which was entirely familiar to the Craft at the time when these names were probably invented. The Ghiblim are spoken of by Anderson, meaning Ghiblim, as stonecutters or Masons; and the early amounts show us very clearly that the Fraternity in that day considered Giblim as the name of a Mason; not only of a Mason generally, but especially of that class of Masons who, as Drummond says, "put the finishing hand to King Solomon's Temple"—that is to say the Fellow Crafts. Anderson also places the Ghiblim among the Fellow Crafts; and so, very naturally, the early Freemasons, not imbued with any amount of Hebrew learning, and not making a distinction between the singular and ph1ral forms of that language, soon got to calling a Fellow Craft a Giblim. The steps of corruption between Giblim arid Jilbelum were not very gradual; nor can anyone doubt that such corruptions of spelling and pronunciation were common among these illiterate Freemasons, when he reads the Old Manuscripts, and finds such verbal distortions as Nembroch for Nimrod, Eaglet for Euclid, and Aymon for Hiram. Thus, the first corruption was from Giblim to Gibalim, which brought the word to three syllables, making it thus nearer to its eventual change. Then we find in the early works another transformation into Chibbelum. The French Freemasons also took the work of corruption in hand, and from Giblim they manufactured Jiblime and Jibulum and Habmlum. Some of these Freneh corruptions eame back to English Freemasonry about the time of the fabrication of the advanced l)egrees, and even the French words were distorted. Thus in the Iceland Manuscript, the English Freemasons made out of Pytagore, the French for Pythagoras, the unknown name Peter Gower, which is said so much to have puzzled John Locke. So we may through these mingled English and French corruptions trace the genealogy of the word Jubelum; thus, Ghiblim, Giblim, Gibalim, Chibbelum, Jiblime, Jibelum, Jabelum, rind, finally, Jubelum. It meant simply a Fellow Craft, and was appropriately given as a common name to a particular Fellow Graft who vas distinguished for his treachery. In other words, he was designated, not by a special and distinctive name, but by the title of his condition and rank at the Temple. He was the Fellow Craft, who was at the head of a eonspiraey. As for the names of the other two Ruffians, they were readily constructed out of that of the greatest one by a simple change of the termination of the word from am to a in one, and from uoz to o in the other, thus preserving, by a similarity of names, the idea of their relationship, for the old works said that they were Brothers who had come together out of Tyre. This derivation to Doctor Mackey seems to be easy, natural, and comprehensible. The change from Giblim, or rather from Gibalim to Jubelum, is one that is far less extraordinary than that which one half of the Masonic words have undergone in their transformation from their original to their present form (see Ritual).

AKIROP The name given, in the ritual of the Ancient and Accepted Rite, to one of the ruffians celebrated in the legend of the Third Degree. The word is said in the ritual to signify, an assassin. It might probably be derived from ..., KaRaB. to assault or join battle; but is just as probably a word so corrupted by long oral transmission that its etymology can no longer be traced (see Abiram).

CHAUCER AND FREEMASONRY … Chaucer's Canterbury Tales also establish a link, though a less obvious one, between the poet and the Craft of Masons. The Masons' Company in London, with which Chaucer had official connections, sustained the St. Thomas Hospital there, left it many bequests, and often visited it in livery. Masons' Companies in two, and possibly three, other cities also helped to support local hospitals of their own named for St. Thomas and it is possible that they looked on St. Thomas as their Patron Saint. This Saint Thomas was the martyred Archbishop of Canterbury, St. Thomas Becket, who was murdered in his own cathedral in 1170. The fact that three knights, described at the time as "the three ruffians," murdered the fifty-three year old prelate by beating him over the head after demanding that he "give them his word," threatened to bury him in the rubbish, and that his body was buried in a spot between a memorial to John the Baptist on one side and John the Evangelist on the other, the two forming parallel lines, must have held a peculiar interest to men in the Masons' Companies, and may account for their support of St. Thomas Hospitals; and it is possible that Chauser, connected with the Mason Company in London as he was, may from that association have had his interest in Canterbury first aroused, and as a result of which he wrote in rhyme the Canterbury (St. Thomas' church) Tales….

COMPANIONS, THE TWELVE George F. Fort says that "the twelve Companions of Master Hiram correspond unquestionably to the twelve zodiacal signs, or the twelve months of the year. The groundwork of this tradition is a fragment of ancient natural religion, common to both Oriental and European nations; or, more properly, was derived from identical sources. The treacherous Craftsmen of Hiram the Good are the three winter months which slew him. He is the sun surviving during the eleven consecutive months, but subjected to the irresistible power of three ruffians, the winter months ; in the twelfth and last month, that luminary, Hiram, the good, the beauteous, the bright, the sun god, is extinguished" (The Early History and Antiquities of Freemasonry, page 408).

RUFFIANS, NAMES OF THE Theosophical and occultist writers have argued that the combined endings of the three names of the Ruffians form together the mystical, Brahmin AUM, as noted on pace 111; and from this they argue that Freemasonry conceals mysteries from the Far East, etc. Historians have found that Speculative Freemasonry arose in England and developed out of Operative Freemasonry which was for some four or five centuries spread over Britain and Europe; an argument composed of speculations about so slight a fact as the endings of three names is not sufficient to overthrow the massive accumulation of data collected by those historians. Equally disastrous to the theory is the fact that at one time or another the Ruffians have had other names, and have differed in number; also, the a, u, m endings became crystallized in the Ritual after the founding of Speculative Freemasonry. In the old catechism called The Whole Institutions of Freemasons Opened, a short document published in Dublin in 1725, occur these curious sentences: "Your first word is Jachin and Boaz is the answer to it, and Grip at the forefinger joint.—Your 2nd word is Magboe and Boe is the answer to it, and Grip at the Wrist. Your 3rd word is Gibboram, Esimbrel is the answer." The origin of the Ruffians themselves is undiscovered; perhaps when the Ritual came to be enacted, instead of being largely composed of a set of drawn symbols with verbal explanations, they were introduced and given their names; if so, the endings may be nothing more than a form of verbal symmetry. (The subject of the many instances of verbal symmetry in the Work, along with other forms of symmetry such as 3, 5, 7, etc., awaits research; if the research were conducted according to the canons of literary analysis, in addition to historical analysis, it might yield light on the origin of the form of the Work now in use. Symmetry cannot be either coincidental or accidental, but must imply redaction, or editorship, or authorship. Bro. and Prof. David Eugene Smith has suggested that the three names are suspiciously like certain old variations on the Hebrew word for "jubilee.")

You may also find the following of interest:

WHO WERE THE RUFFIANS? by C.Bruce Hunter Published in The Square Magazine Vol 29, March 2003

The Three Ruffians

The Murder of Thomas Becket, 1170
 

hanzosbm

Premium Member
Excellent read! I was particularly fascinated by the part regarding Thomas Becket. I'll need to go back and read up on that.

I'm going to throw out an idea here. Kind of in the vein of brainstorming and see where this goes.

What if the story of HAB is symbolic of man's quest for the knowledge of God? Then the story becomes one of God promising knowledge/paradise to all of those who are working. Along the way, he is giving his instructions, but it is not until his plans are completed that he intends to reveal everything and bring us closer to Him. But, along the way, there are some who are not content with waiting, so they break the rules to try to get it early. Just throwing out some loose ideas, but you've got Adam and Eve who are given paradise and God speaks with the directly, but that isn't good enough so they taste the fruit of knowledge. God has forbidden it, but they forced the issue which angers God. Next, you've got the building the Tower of Babel with man trying to force his way to the level of God. God has given man some of his knowledge and they use this to try to get more. Again, God gets angry and denies their advance. Finally, the son of God is given to man to give us good and wholesome instruction on our labors. (this part doesn't quite fit the mold of wanting more knowledge, but cut me some slack, this is a loose theory) At this point, we have the third 'attack' on God, this time 'killing Him' based on the idea of the Trinity. Following this, the word of God is lost. (our Muslim brothers would disagree, but we acknowledge a Christian bias by early Masons) and from that point forward, God no longer speaks to us. His direct knowledge is lost. Instead, we must find a replacement to use in its place (i.e., religion in the form of the writings of others, not Christ himself)

Again, just an idea that came to me, but I can see some parallels. For instance, it's pretty easy to see how there would be similarity in the roles of HAB and the Great Architect. I dunno. Thoughts?
 

hanzosbm

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CHAUCER AND FREEMASONRY … Chaucer's Canterbury Tales also establish a link....St. Thomas Becket, who was murdered in his own cathedral in 1170. The fact that three knights, described at the time as "the three ruffians," murdered the fifty-three year old prelate by beating him over the head after demanding that he "give them his word," threatened to bury him in the rubbish, and that his body was buried in a spot between a memorial to John the Baptist on one side and John the Evangelist on the other, the two forming parallel lines….

Does anybody know of the origins of this account? Thomas Becket plays prominently in Canterbury Tales, but I can't seem to find any account of his murder. Furthermore, every other account I find of his murder lists 4 knights, his refusal to submit to the king's will as being the reason, and that he was left to die inside the church where the monks tended to his body.
 

LAMason

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Does anybody know of the origins of this account? Thomas Becket plays prominently in Canterbury Tales, but I can't seem to find any account of his murder. Furthermore, every other account I find of his murder lists 4 knights, his refusal to submit to the king's will as being the reason, and that he was left to die inside the church where the monks tended to his body.

I could not find any sources that meshed with Mackey's version either. He did not list a source, so was probably just relating it based on the accepted version at that time.

I stumbled on this Doctoral Dissertation while doing some research. It is long and dry. I have only skimmed it and just started reading it in detail. It does not speak directly to the development of the Degrees but you may find some new info that is worthwhile as far as understanding the time they were written and the men most involved.

The Architects of Eighteenth Century English Freemasonry, 1720 – 1740 by Richard Andrew Berman
 

hanzosbm

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I could not find any sources that meshed with Mackey's version either. He did not list a source, so was probably just relating it based on the accepted version at that time.

I stumbled on this Doctoral Dissertation while doing some research. It is long and dry. I have only skimmed it and just started reading it in detail. It does not speak directly to the development of the Degrees but you may find some new info that is worthwhile as far as understanding the time they were written and the men most involved.

The Architects of Eighteenth Century English Freemasonry, 1720 – 1740 by Richard Andrew Berman
Thank you, Brother. I hope to have some time to read over it later today.
 

hanzosbm

Premium Member
And, some side degrees aprovide an explanation for why the ritual was written as it was.
When you say side degrees, are you referring to SR, YR, and some of the others, or do you mean things like the first 3 degrees as done by the SR (if you can find a lodge that works them)?

I haven't joined any of the appendant bodies as of yet. I feel like I could spend a lifetime gathering the light from the degrees of the Blue Lodge. At the same time, I also feel like if I'm not getting the full picture, then maybe I should. I was about to go off on a huge tangent, but maybe I'll just start another thread.
 

Glen Cook

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When you say side degrees, are you referring to SR, YR, and some of the others, or do you mean things like the first 3 degrees as done by the SR (if you can find a lodge that works them)?

I haven't joined any of the appendant bodies as of yet. I feel like I could spend a lifetime gathering the light from the degrees of the Blue Lodge. At the same time, I also feel like if I'm not getting the full picture, then maybe I should. I was about to go off on a huge tangent, but maybe I'll just start another thread.
I meant to specifically refer to invitational appendant bodies, rather than the Craft degrees, whether Scottish Rite, Swedish Rite, Rectified Rite.

I encourage folks to complete the Royal Arch.
 

promason

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Hiram,the GUARDIAN OF ORIGINAL WISDOM,of ORIGINAL GNOSE,of ORIGINAL POWER,CONTINUE GOOD BETTER,WEEKEND EVERYONE,BYE,
 
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