Similar situation in Texas. Three lodges were chartered by the Grand Lodge of Louisiana, which then met under Sam Houston and created the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Texas...later changed to The Grand Lodge of Texas when we gained statehood.
GLOS and PHA.Or "Grand Lodges of States" as opposed to "PHA Grand Lodges".
You are an EA? http://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/three-lesser-lights.25785/#post-148261
Someone should have talked to you about using the symbols of the craft until after you were raised. An avatar counts.
GLoS often is used for Scotlland. State GLs? SGL?GLOS and PHA.
Good point. I thought it looked familiar!GLoS often is used for Scotlland.
Agreed.Join me in using the unofficial term George Washington. Also join me in having no interest in making it official. Of course both branches of our family in this country are mainstream.
That's my understanding of how it works.Grand lodges issue charters to lodges, not to grand lodges. Regular grand lodges do not have *charters* as such. Grand lodges organize themselves from regular and recognized lodges in their territory and then apply for *recognition* from other grand lodges. At the formation those lodges surrender their charters to their original jurisdictions and receive new charters from their new grand lodge.
If your grand lodges lists a charter for any reason other than declaring itself a non-profit corporation in its own state *after* having been recognized by other grand lodges, that's a hint its formation was not regular. It may well have a declaration adopting its initial constitution and bylaws, but calling such a historical document a charter is a tactical error at best, an admission of clandestine origin at worst.
But see, UGLE's statement regarding standards of recognition:That's my understanding of how it works.
But see, UGLE's statement regarding standards of recognition:
1. Regularity of origin; i.e. each Grand Lodge shall have been established lawfully
by a duly recognised Grand Lodge or by three or more regularly constituted Lodges.
Grand lodges issue charters to lodges, not to grand lodges. Regular grand lodges do not have *charters* as such. Grand lodges organize themselves from regular and recognized lodges in their territory and then apply for *recognition* from other grand lodges. At the formation those lodges surrender their charters to their original jurisdictions and receive new charters from their new grand lodge.
Yep, that's it in a nutshell.
Just to clarify, the Commission makes recommendation to the members of CGMNA regarding recognition of GLsAnd just for info in the US we have a cimmission that actually handle all the recommendations.
http://www.recognitioncommission.org/
But see, UGLE's statement regarding standards of recognition:
1. Regularity of origin; i.e. each Grand Lodge shall have been
Grand Lodge or by three or more regularly constituted Lodges....
....The youngest of the 4 lodges of 1717 was 5 years old at that time but it was declared time-immemorial to avoid admitting that it had a charter....
And thanks to Glen for that link describing a GL charted by another GL
And thanks to Glen for that link describing a GL charted by another GL
I guess I'm not reasonable. I had the opportunity to bring a clandestine lodge of Masons into my mother GL. I explained to them the petition processYep. Love the way people see 1717 as the birth of freemasonry. All it was was the birth of the modern grand lodge system.... which sees GLs by their nature as controlling enties. I also like the way people often miss ugle was founded in 1813 when the schism was resolved ... but do recognise its a direct continuation of the ancients and moderns
On the goldfield in victoria in the 1850's freemasonry was active and growing.... then it was noted it was misram rite (the french one, not sure if i've spelt it correctly). When members discovered it was 'irregular' and what that meant, they just swapped to a recognised GL ( not researched it myself but assume they were reinitiated)
If i was marooned on a desert island with 500 men, 10 of them masons with little hope of rescue, i'd be making masons as done in "time immemorial"..... if rescued, i'm pretty sure a reasonable GL would take me and my 500 new members in debating that might make a fun thread