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Can anyone enlighten me on THE AMERICAN NATIONAL SUPREME COUNCIL

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
no not necessarily. It all depends on the lodges bylaws. maybe it was 150 +45 for dues and GL per capita. I mean in this case they are completely bogus but, you cant say with ANY amount of certainty that every lodge has just a flat rate for initiation.
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
Anytime you pay for your first 3 degrees and then they tell you you have to pay extra money before you can receive anything is bogus

Or maybe the Brother explaining it uses poor wording or has poor understanding. In all of my jurisdictions there is an application fee just to make it to the ballot, plus a fee for each degree. None are large amounts compared to the typical wage but if you work at minimum wage you'd need to scrape to come up with them.

What varies widely among lodges I've seen and among candidates I've met is how many of those fees are paid together. Some want to pay the fees as they go. Others ask what the total is and enclose a check for the grand total with the petition.
 
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BullDozer Harrell

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This is how it works pretty much...

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Ill357

Registered User
Greetings Brothers,

I can enlighten you on this jurisdiction. Yes it is operating clandestine. They are using Freemasonry for financial gain.
 

mm357

Registered User
Greetings Brothers,

I can enlighten you on this jurisdiction. Yes it is operating clandestine. They are using Freemasonry for financial gain.
That's exactly what I'm saying brother they're operating to accumulate money for personal uses they're hoodwinking and bamboozling a lot of people
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
How do we stop clandestine jurisdiction from using Freemasonry as a front for financial gain
I have heard at one time it was illegal for someone to impersonate being a Freemason maybe this needs to be put back in effect
 

Winter

Premium Member
A lot of states still have laws on the books. For instance, Wisconsin State Statute 132.16 &17 makes it a misdemeanor for anyone to make or wear anything Masonic who is not entitled to do so. But I serious doubt one of these obscure statutes has been prosecuted in a very long time. I'm not even sure if we could apply them to clandestine organizations. Do we really want the courts determining which group is legitimate?

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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
A lot of states still have laws on the books. Do we really want the courts determining which group is legitimate?

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Agreed that would open up a whole new can of worms
 

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
A lot of states still have laws on the books. For instance, Wisconsin State Statute 132.16 &17 makes it a misdemeanor for anyone to make or wear anything Masonic who is not entitled to do so. But I serious doubt one of these obscure statutes has been prosecuted in a very long time.
This would get shredded if it ever went to court. the GOVT cant tell someone what they can and cannot wear.
as long as they are not presenting themselves as something they are not with the intent to defraud someone.<-------This is where the law suit against these groups that are for financial gains would have to focus. as for the groups that "are forces of good" in their communities they are Freemasons, just not ones that are recognized as such by us. The conference of GMs and the PHA conference of GMs and the UGLE need to get together and file trademark and copy right on the name FREEMASON, the S&C with and with out the G and our designations of AF&AM, F&AM, FAAM and the couple other varients out there
 
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