No Scottish Rite here in the sense you know it so the Degrees are different Orders...
Umm, yeah, there is. I've been in functions with your SGC. No, not different orders. I think you are mistaking for the misnamed York Rite.
http://www.scottishrite.org.au
Um, yeah.... i've booked them into Centres i manage. Is Rose croix administered by them ? SR has the Scottish and Australian Const but it seems to me to work differently in the States, which is why some SR Australians have been known to travel to the States to get Degrees... I'll check and ask..
Okay, so I followed up with a few folk on this.
Firstly, I am not a member of any other Order except the Craft but was Fezzed in the Shrine. I am here to learn and share like us all.
So, (putting WMGMs aside) I caught up with one of the most "Senior" Freemasons in the State a few days ago... he was robing up for the KTPs and is in almost everything under the sun. A few of them thought it was weird I was there - but I knew most of the Brothers in the room and it was a good catchup
The guy is Barry M (Glen, you might have met him, Ben Q was also there etc ). I asked Barry if my statement that there is "No Scottish Rite here in the sense you (Americans) know it" and he said this statement was correct.. but after trying to sort through this tonight... I've just got more questions.... We have two "Scottish Rite" bodies here as I said - the Australian and Scottish (there is a third another contact tells me which is "universal" but let's not go down that rabbit hole - don't ask, don't tell)
Their official descriptors are
"Supreme Council for Scotland 33° (SC), Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite" and we are the "Province of Victoria"
(Qualification - Craft MM for 3 years)
There is a Grand Consistory (opens 4 pm annually) &
There is a Sovereign Tribunal (opens 6 pm annually on the same date)
There are 4 Sovereign Councils (three have "KH 30° after their names, one doesn't - but that's probably a typo)
There are 13 Sovereign Chapters of "Prince Rose Croix, 18°"
&
"Ancient and accepted Scottish Rite under THE SUPREME COUNCIL, 33° FOR AUSTRALIA (AC)
(Qualification - Craft MM)
Grand Consistory 32° - i dont have details on (unless its associated with the 30° then what I am reading makes sense)
Sovereign Tribunal of 31° is annual (plus other dates "TBA")
Then we have Sovereign Councils of Grand Elect Knights of Kadosh KH 30° - there is 6 of them
Then Sovereign Chapters of Prince Rose Croix 18 ° - there is 19 of them
That's the audit on bodies and their names
The chaper of rose croix is the 2nd body in the sr...15th deg to 18th deg....degree names can and are different from the norther Juris to the southern juris US to canada to the uk to Australia
Thanks JD - all clear now, evident I was wrong and Rose Croix is indeed under SR here in Australia - but everyone talks about being in Rose Croix and not "Scottish Rite" - I'd made a mistake because of that and because I bill them for rent - I'd not realised that Rose Criox sat beneath those Scottish Rite Supreme Councils because I issue them different bills and did not realise the structure...
However, my understanding is that you do the 4° to 33° in the one body in the States ? Perhaps they're conferred here (11:11 pm and a bit late to be checking) but with MM in Australian SR as a qualification - we must... but our Craft GL says Freemasonry consists of 5 degrees - EA, FC, MM, MMM and the Degree of HRA.... (it was changed from 3 in about 2011- "Craft Freemasonry embraces the three first-named" ) hence, and long before our Const was changed - the first stop for a MM looking for an apendant body was Mark or Chapter before anything else..
But there is one big difference which all are confirming. In Victoria (and Australia for that matter) you are not going to get the 30,31,32 & 33 degree like you do in the States. Barry M said to me these are basically "philanthropic" and raise money (true ?) in the States..
Here, it's I am told by people who know, that generally going to take you 10-15 years to move beyond the 30° and those above it are a very small handful - most are not conferred but attached to an office.
Anyway, that sort of builds on my understanding of the "SR" in Australia... but I need to do a bit more work understanding moving beyond the 18° here[/QUOTE]