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Masonic communication between "mainstream" Masonry and PH Masonry

Warrior1256

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What you should not do at this point is the details that we do to get past the tiler to attend lodge. Because MS PH Union GL of FL does not yet have local recognition with GL of FL that's still something to wait on.
Right, this is what I was refering to. If a man represents himself as a Freemason to me we can discuss our lodges, meeting times, etc. But nothing "Masonic" as defined by your post.
 

Ripcord22A

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Yall need to chillax homies. Joseph was just commenting on what he was told pertains to his GL and only what that one brother who told him "believes" needs to happen for a black man to petition a StateGL. That brother is more then likely incorrect or is refering to if a PH mason wants to join the StateGL. Dont jump all over these new brothers for misspeaking. We need to whisper wise council

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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
Yall need to chillax homies. Joseph was just commenting on what he was told pertains to his GL and only what that one brother who told him "believes" needs to happen for a black man to petition a StateGL. That brother is more then likely incorrect or is refering to if a PH mason wants to join the StateGL. Dont jump all over these new brothers for misspeaking. We need to whisper wise council

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Wrong. He is an EA and he is repeating information that is incorrect, then he wants to get an attitude.
 

Ripcord22A

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Why do you brothers say this, I can't recall in my obligation where it states I will only know for sure a man is a mason if I sit in Lodge with him. Maybe it's a jurisdictional thing.
Your obligation doesnt say anything about sharing secrets unless you know him to be or someone has vouched for him to be? Showing a dues card doesnt prove anything. Making past the tyler and sitting in lodge with that man does, or someone you have sat in lodge with tell you they have sat in lodge with that man does. That is THE only way to be sure.

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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
He didnt mention which one though. And he didnt get an attitude till the attitude was given to him. As i said we need to whisper wise counsil not turn our noses up as we feel as MM we are beter then an EA.....

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It doesn't matter which one. A Black man doesn't need a wavier from a PH lodge. I tell him the same as I tell any other EA or FC that does the same. Actually, he did give attitude first. I merely pointed out what he was saying was incorrect and it was. Go talk to him about the whispering part.
 

Joseph Thornton

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I didnt have an attitude, and still don't. I'm sorry if you can't detect tone in my text. (that was honesty, not sarcasm)

I simply pointed out your statements as rude and frustrating. If you really can "stop my progress" for that, then I maybe I don't need to be a Mason. If the lodge brothers would take your word for it over a blown up over reaction situation then I accept their judgement since they are supposed to know me.

Now I'm sorry that thought there was something positive the gain from the topic at all. You brothers can see I post here less and less often. I havent even logged on here in weeks.

jmads, and Warrior, thank you for the benefit of the doubt.
 
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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
I didnt have an attitude, and still don't. I'm sorry if you can't detect tone in my text. (that was honesty, not sarcasm)

I simply pointed out your statements as rude and frustrating. If you really can "stop my progress" for that, then I maybe I don't need to be a Mason. If the lodge brothers would take your word for it over a blown up over reaction situation then I accept their judgement since they are supposed to know me.

Now I'm sorry that thought there was something positive the gain from the topic at all. You brother can see I post here less and less often. I havent even logged on here in weeks.

jmads, and Warrior, thank you for the benefit of the doubt.

I never said I was going to stop your progress. You asked a question and were given an answer. There would be no need to take my word for anything. The thread speaks for itself. In most jurisdictions, it can be for any reason; not sure about yours.

You will either learn to subdue your passions or not. That's on you. My statements seem rude cause you haven't learned enough to see the truth in them.
 
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Joseph Thornton

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Thank you for your advice.

I will consider your point and hope you are not too much of an MM to reconsider mine.

Have a good day.
 

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
Brother Thornton dont worry about your progress being stopped. You are in a different GL and I can almost guarantee that except for the GM of an outside GL called with a situation such as this theyd get laughed at. Some people take things posted on here WAY to seriously. As those of us that have posted on this thread are not members of the GLoColorado or the MWPHGLoCO we cannot speak to what the processes are in CO. I can only speak to the process in OR and NM.

As for what u posted that a black man needs a waiver that truly does make zero sense as the man hold zero aligience to either branch of the family tree. You should get clairification on this, is it for new petitioners or Bros who what to change sides.

Now back on topic.....

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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
Some people take things posted on here WAY to seriously.

Passing out correct information is taking things too seriously? I guess yall let your EAs & FCs just do whatever they want, right or wrong. Maybe if you had informed him that he was wrong to begin with, he would have let it go. Is that your wise counsel?

Some people care about the craft more than someone's feelings.
 
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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
I made it clear I am new, I made it clear I don't REALLY know. I made it clear I was repeating a conversation I was directly involved in.

This response was rude. Now I need to be MM before I am allowed to chat about conversations I actually had?

Remember your new name given to you and why you where giving this name don't take the previous comments personal brother just stay in your study's it will all make sense to you in due time as to why brothers may have responded the way they did something many MM forget is that we to where once EA,s....keep on traveling brother
 
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