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mrpierce17

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My source is masonry defined you can also find this information elsewhere
 
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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
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No but it does say HRAM degrees are included in the first 3 degrees in ancient craft masonry that could be the reasoning behind the requirement for doing HRAM in order to sit as warden in his jurisdiction you really only need to read the first witch I took down to edit so profane's couldn't see the meaning behind some of our emblems this is the first page
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MarkR

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That statement "including the Holy Royal Arch" was added to satisfy the Antients at the unification of 1813. It was never required that you become Royal Arch; that phrase just included it in "Ancient Craft Masonry," which the Moderns never did.
Got you had me confused when you mentioned going from HRAM straight to Commandery
In some states, doing the Cryptic Council is not required before Commandery. Minnesota didn't require it for many years; it was just re-added a few years ago, because so few were doing Council.
 

Glen Cook

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Yeah. But I am glad to hear YR is a pre-req for the South. They said my wife could eat with all of us so thats nice.
1. Who told you YR is a pre-req for the South?
2. Is it YR or HRA that is the pre-req?
 

Glen Cook

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No but it does say HRAM degrees are included in the first 3 degrees in ancient craft masonry that could be the reasoning behind the requirement for doing HRAM in order to sit as warden in his jurisdiction you really only need to read the first witch I took down to edit so profane's couldn't see the meaning behind some of our emblems this is the first page View attachment 5262
Thank for all the work in posting that.

To be more precise, the Ancients (which were the new GL, not the Premier GL) practised HRA after one had been a master of a lodge, that is, presided in the East. See Cryer, What Do You Know About The Royal Arch, page 54. If you don't have Cryer's books on your shelf, I would encourage you to obtain them.
 
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J.D.

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No but it does say HRAM degrees are included in the first 3 degrees in ancient craft masonry that could be the reasoning behind the requirement for doing HRAM in order to sit as warden in his jurisdiction you really only need to read the first witch I took down to edit so profane's couldn't see the meaning behind some of our emblems this is the first page View attachment 5262

I see a lot of "Jesus" and "Christian" in that book. And people say it isn't Christian or has anything to do with it. I think people should actually read the books they're handed out instead of putting it in a drawer then getting mad at people for telling them what is in the pages. No class.
 
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J.D.

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Old school? Ive never heard of an GL requiring that a MM move beyond MM iot be able to lead their lodge?

And Freemasonry isnt all about Advancement. Its about bettering yourself, lodge, community, family ect ect

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That's why I am a Christian, to better myself, etc. This can only truly be done through Christ. I am a Mason because it was family tradition for lack of a better phrase. Advancement is what I am looking for within the fraternity.
 
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J.D.

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1. Who told you YR is a pre-req for the South?
2. Is it YR or HRA that is the pre-req?

The Past Master degree, which is given by "- - - - -", you guys are confusing me because some are A.F.&A.M. and some are not, is required to take the Warden station(s). Now this is in West Virginia, mind you. This may not apply to your Grand Lodge. All are different in some way or another.
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
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I see a lot of "Jesus" and "Christian" in that book. And people say it isn't Christian or has anything to do with it. I think people should actually read the books they're handed out instead of putting it in a drawer then getting mad at people for telling them what is in the pages. No class.

That was in reference to an amulet
 

Ripcord22A

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The Past Master degree, which is given by "- - - - -", you guys are confusing me because some are A.F.&A.M. and some are not, is required to take the Warden station(s). Now this is in West Virginia, mind you. This may not apply to your Grand Lodge. All are different in some way or another.
Brother in US "mainstream" recognized jurisdictions the AF&AM or F&AM matters not. I am a member of 2 AF&AM jurisdictions that trace their lineage to the same jurisdiction and the differences are very noticeable.

However I find it very odd that a GL would require you have an appendent body membership before being able to lead your lodge. Also what if a brother just wants to serve his Blue lodge and has no desire to move outside of it?

As for you desire to advance in the fraternity we have terms for that...title chasers, degree collectors among others. Brother just by saying what youve said if you ever go AASR youll never get the kcch or 33rd as you have expressed desire to receive them. You can never ask or you wont receive them

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Brother JC

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@J.D. "York Rite" is an American invention, so "old school" is subjective. In UGLE, HRA Chapters are part of the Grand Lodge and highly recommended to the Brethren.
If the requirements you've mentioned are true, it appears to be WV specific. Too bad for the Brethren who desire to lead but have no desire to join York Rite.
 
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J.D.

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That was in reference to an amulet

Heard it in OES. Masonry is founded on the building of the temple of God. Which in that part of the world, was and is Yaweh. Just an observation. Which amulet is it talking about? What book is that?
 
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J.D.

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@J.D. "York Rite" is an American invention, so "old school" is subjective. In UGLE, HRA Chapters are part of the Grand Lodge and highly recommended to the Brethren.
If the requirements you've mentioned are true, it appears to be WV specific. Too bad for the Brethren who desire to lead but have no desire to join York Rite.

Interesting. I understand the first king of England instituted the first York Rite something in 500 and something. I can't remember if that was in the video on the RAM site or what. But it was in there somewhere.
 
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