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The Modern Cowan

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coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
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Since we mostly believe what is written in modern versions of the Bible, we tend to regard Ezekiel 1:16 as being metaphorical rather than literal.

"The appearance of the wheels and their works [is] as the colour of beryl, and one likeness [is] to them four, and their appearances and their works [are] as it were the wheel in the midst of the wheel. 17On their four sides, in their going they go, they turn not round in their going. 18As to their rings, they are both high and fearful, and their rings [are] full of eyes round about them four. 19And in the going of the living creatures, the wheels go beside them, and in the living creatures being lifted up from off the earth, lifted up are the wheels."

Thus we are able to disregard the mechanical descriptions of the wheels in which the creatures are lifted up. This allows us to separate the angels and demons of the OT from any sense of traveling in a physical craft.

It may be of interest to note that many ufos are described as having contra-rotating discs (wheels).

The theological problem is that when angels and demons come in wheel-craft, ordinary people can interact with them in a non-religious context. Apparently that does happen very frequently
Only when the stuff being smoked is not off the usual shelves.
 

SimonM

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Since we mostly believe what is written in modern versions of the Bible, we tend to regard Ezekiel 1:16 as being metaphorical rather than literal.

Thus we are able to disregard the mechanical descriptions of the wheels in which the creatures are lifted up. This allows us to separate the angels and demons of the OT from any sense of traveling in a physical craft.

It may be of interest to note that many ufos are described as having contra-rotating discs (wheels).

The theological problem is that when angels and demons come in wheel-craft, ordinary people can interact with them in a non-religious context. Apparently that does happen very frequently

If we accept the existance of God, then its not unreasonable to believe that angels exists as well. If angels exist, we can probably meet and communicate with them under the right circumstances.
I see no reason to add the theory of extra terrestials to this, rather I find it more probable that persons who claim to have seen UFOs have had visions of angels.

The idea that angels should look like cute chubby children with wings is a recent idea. Remember that some angels in the scripture start their conversations with humans with "Be not afraid". That makes me think that some angels can look really scary (and/or weird) when they appear.
 

Bloke

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If we accept the existance of God, then its not unreasonable to believe that angels exists as well. If.......

Goodness knows what is or is not reasonable, but I do love the way people will espouse a belief in God, then deny *any* other kind of Supernatural (being?) force or event. I believe there is stuff out there we don't understand.

The ancients worked out the level of a tide was linked to the phase of the moon, and science has been able to detail that relationship and maybe a lot of other stuff we don't understand will be explained.

But Faith in God(s), frankly it's a bit ridiculous in itself, as such, as a non-atheist, it's a bit silly to dismiss other supernatural phenomenon.

I think extraterrestrials are much easier because we're talking physical world. Given the size of "space" I'd bet money that life exists somewhere else and I would not be so conceited to assume were the smartest entity on offer (kinda scarey either way lol).... but i doubt the lizard men are amongst us... lol.

This stuff is hard, because once you open one door to the silly, where does it stop? But as freemason with a belief in the gaotu, I have to acknowledge I'm already through the silly door....
 
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Ressam

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If we accept the existance of God, then its not unreasonable to believe that angels exists as well. If angels exist, we can probably meet and communicate with them under the right circumstances.
I see no reason to add the theory of extra terrestials to this, rather I find it more probable that persons who claim to have seen UFOs have had visions of angels.

The idea that angels should look like cute chubby children with wings is a recent idea. Remember that some angels in the scripture start their conversations with humans with "Be not afraid". That makes me think that some angels can look really scary (and/or weird) when they appear.

Angels are -- Souls, not incarnated to bodies.
Extraterrestrial Civilizations are different Beings.
 
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Ressam

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Mr. James!
Is that correct information --
that Ezekiel in his Book, wrote sth. about "too many reptiles" in The Temple?
 

Ripcord22A

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Back on topic....what are someways that these "modern cowans" can be brought into the fold and encouraged to be productive members of the lodge
 
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Ressam

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I feel like Ressam is sitting in front of his computer in his moms basement laughing his butt off at James...

If im.wrong though why dont you guys move this convo into the PMs....
Your "feelings" are wrong Mr.Madsen.
But, it's normal. It's OK.
"Soldier" must be stupid.
Keep do your 'service', "toy".
 

Warrior1256

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Your "feelings" are wrong Mr.Madsen.
But, it's normal. It's OK.
"Soldier" must be stupid.
Keep do your 'service', "toy".
"Soldier must be stupid", No, I don't think so. He's a man that puts his country's needs before his own. I admire him.
"Keep do your service toy", I don't even know what this means but this is normal with your posts.
You're just a troll whom I usually find amusing with your silly posts, but not this time.
 

coachn

Coach John S. Nagy
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[QUOTE"]Your "feelings" are wrong Mr.Madsen.
But, it's normal. It's OK.
"Soldier" must be stupid.
Keep do your 'service', "toy".[/QUOTE]
An attack for sure.
 
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